▲ 59 ▼ Diseases of the circulatory system accounted for 32.5% of all deaths in the EU in 2023 (i.redd.it) submitted 1 month ago by ooli3@sopuli.xyz to c/map_enthusiasts@sopuli.xyz 18 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] apfelwoiSchoppen@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago (6 children) Ongoing effects of Chernobyl? permalink fedilink source hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] ooli3@sopuli.xyz [S] 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) this might be the reason, because the stat are baffling: It is not alcohol, or smoking since France rank high in those. It is not lack of sport, as Germany is one of the most sport oriented population. Is is not lack of money, as Germany and Swiss dont do so well. It is not the "mediterraneen diet" since italy dont do so good. It cant be quality of Healthcare, because germany , swiss and sweden have a great one. It all make no sense, without some hidden factor at play permalink fedilink source parent [–] whyNotSquirrel@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 month ago or alcohol? permalink fedilink source parent [–] Skua@kbin.earth 2 points 1 month ago (3 children) It doesn't seem to line up very well with where the radioactive material from the disaster landed, save for in the most general sense of "more in the east". Of the countries included in this dataset, if Chernobyl was the cause then you'd expect much higher rates in Finland, Sweden, and Austria and much lower rates in the Baltics permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] apfelwoiSchoppen@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children) I don't know, lines up with the cancer maps of post-Chernobyl decently well. (Edited to fix typo) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Skua@kbin.earth 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 child) It doesn't look that close to me Finland: lowest death rate on the southern coast, which is almost the country's highest Chernobyl exposure Poland: almost an inverse correlation within the country, not to mention that it got one of the highest doses overall but isn't particularly high on the death rates Bulgaria and Hungary: low exposures, very high death rates Turkiye and Georgia: high death rates, little to no exposure Like, yes, there is a general correlation of more east = higher death rates and also higher doses, but there's too much other stuff going on in the details for that to be the explanation by itself permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] apfelwoiSchoppen@lemmy.world 1 point 1 month ago We'll have to wait for other peer reviewed research for causation. Still wouldn't shock me of there was some link. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ooli3@sopuli.xyz [S] 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) this might be the reason, because the stat are baffling: It is not alcohol, or smoking since France rank high in those. It is not lack of sport, as Germany is one of the most sport oriented population. Is is not lack of money, as Germany and Swiss dont do so well. It is not the "mediterraneen diet" since italy dont do so good. It cant be quality of Healthcare, because germany , swiss and sweden have a great one. It all make no sense, without some hidden factor at play permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Skua@kbin.earth 2 points 1 month ago (3 children) It doesn't seem to line up very well with where the radioactive material from the disaster landed, save for in the most general sense of "more in the east". Of the countries included in this dataset, if Chernobyl was the cause then you'd expect much higher rates in Finland, Sweden, and Austria and much lower rates in the Baltics permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] apfelwoiSchoppen@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children) I don't know, lines up with the cancer maps of post-Chernobyl decently well. (Edited to fix typo) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Skua@kbin.earth 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 child) It doesn't look that close to me Finland: lowest death rate on the southern coast, which is almost the country's highest Chernobyl exposure Poland: almost an inverse correlation within the country, not to mention that it got one of the highest doses overall but isn't particularly high on the death rates Bulgaria and Hungary: low exposures, very high death rates Turkiye and Georgia: high death rates, little to no exposure Like, yes, there is a general correlation of more east = higher death rates and also higher doses, but there's too much other stuff going on in the details for that to be the explanation by itself permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] apfelwoiSchoppen@lemmy.world 1 point 1 month ago We'll have to wait for other peer reviewed research for causation. Still wouldn't shock me of there was some link. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] apfelwoiSchoppen@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children) I don't know, lines up with the cancer maps of post-Chernobyl decently well. (Edited to fix typo) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Skua@kbin.earth 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 child) It doesn't look that close to me Finland: lowest death rate on the southern coast, which is almost the country's highest Chernobyl exposure Poland: almost an inverse correlation within the country, not to mention that it got one of the highest doses overall but isn't particularly high on the death rates Bulgaria and Hungary: low exposures, very high death rates Turkiye and Georgia: high death rates, little to no exposure Like, yes, there is a general correlation of more east = higher death rates and also higher doses, but there's too much other stuff going on in the details for that to be the explanation by itself permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] apfelwoiSchoppen@lemmy.world 1 point 1 month ago We'll have to wait for other peer reviewed research for causation. Still wouldn't shock me of there was some link. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Skua@kbin.earth 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 child) It doesn't look that close to me Finland: lowest death rate on the southern coast, which is almost the country's highest Chernobyl exposure Poland: almost an inverse correlation within the country, not to mention that it got one of the highest doses overall but isn't particularly high on the death rates Bulgaria and Hungary: low exposures, very high death rates Turkiye and Georgia: high death rates, little to no exposure Like, yes, there is a general correlation of more east = higher death rates and also higher doses, but there's too much other stuff going on in the details for that to be the explanation by itself permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] apfelwoiSchoppen@lemmy.world 1 point 1 month ago We'll have to wait for other peer reviewed research for causation. Still wouldn't shock me of there was some link. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] apfelwoiSchoppen@lemmy.world 1 point 1 month ago We'll have to wait for other peer reviewed research for causation. Still wouldn't shock me of there was some link. permalink fedilink source parent
