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[–] 0 points 1 month ago* (21 children)

It sure seems to be when it’s convenient for them. Biden had the power to go after Trump, and decided to slow-walk the entire process.

The slow walking happened because of the courts, or if you must blame the executive branch, because of Garland. The justice system is famously slow. You know what would have been faster? Not electing fascists.

That’s literally what the Executive branch does. It didn’t even have to be a “personal hit squad” kinda thing, the crimes were public. Biden just didn’t care.

The DOJ is an independent federal agency. Only in a failed state does a politician wield the legal system against political opponents. Oh hey look! We're sitting in the failed state you, yes you personally, voted for.

I do know how it works.

You don't. There are actually three options and exactly three options in every national election.

  1. Democrat

  2. Republican

  3. Not participating. Sitting at home? Not participating. Jill Stein? Not participating.

Nobody "learns a lesson" when you write in your mom for president. The message you're sending is, "progressives are too stupid to vote strategically, so by all means, try to appeal to more moderates." What we could do, if you weren't standing proudly in the way, is make the GOP irrelevant by consistently turning out for Democrats, then primary the Democrats from the left to split the party into its pro-business neoliberal wings and its pro-labor progressive wings. Unfortunately for us, and especially unfortunately for children in Gaza, Lebanon, and Iran, you want to feel good about voting more than you want to effect change.

Let me say this again: tens of thousands of children are dead because you wanted to feel smug about voting against both major parties. Good fucking job. A real hero. I bet they're erecting a statue to you in Gaza City right now out of the rubble you buried children under.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago (2 children)

    The slow walking happened because of the courts, or if you must blame the executive branch, because of Garland.

    Oh, you mean Biden's guy? Weird, how Trump, and Obama were able to do whatever they wanted with the DOJ, but Biden? Well, he's just a smol bean, an widdle guy, who has no power.

    You know what would have been faster? Not electing fascists.

    Well, no, a working legal system would have been faster. Trump was elected after those proceedings were dragged out. Of course, the Democrats also helped take "not electing facsists" off the table years ago.

    The DOJ is an independent federal agency. Only in a failed state does a politician wield the legal system against political opponents. Oh hey look! We’re sitting in the failed state you, yes you personally, voted for.

    No the DOJ is supposed to be an independent federal agency. It never has been though. And once again, I didn't vote for this. I voted against it. You repeatedly saying untrue things doesn't make them true.

    You don’t. There are actually three options and exactly three options in every national election.

    I do. I have already factually pointed out how you are wrong about that. Come back when you've read up on it.

    Nobody “learns a lesson” when you write in your mom for president.

    Yes, you are correct. The Democrats know why I don't vote for them, they just don't care. They'd demonstrably rather have Trump in office, than what I want. I didn't vote against them to "teach them a lesson". I voted against them because they are evil.

    The message you’re sending is, “progressives are too stupid to vote strategically, so by all means, try to appeal to more moderates.”

    No, the message I'm sending is "I don't want to bomb kids, support genocide, make healthcare the largest cause of bankruptcy in the US, support the police-state, support rapists, support ICE, support openly corrupt politicians, and many of the other things that the Democrats and Republicans both stand for."

    What we could do, if you weren’t standing proudly in the way, is make the GOP irrelevant by consistently turning out for Democrats, then primary the Democrats from the left to split the party into its pro-business neoliberal wings and its pro-labor progressive wings.

    Well, no, we can't do that. The Democrats have already made it clear that they'd rather lose to the GOP than let progressives have a shot. But you'd have to actually pay attention to know that.

    Unfortunately for us, and especially unfortunately for children in Gaza, Lebanon, and Iran, you want to feel good about voting more than you want to effect change.

    No, that what Democrats do. They "feel good" about voting for people who bomb kids, because they buy into the lie that Democrats will do better, despite all evidence to the contrary. I vote based on what I want to happen, not on what professional liars tell me that they will or won't do.

    Let me say this again: tens of thousands of children are dead because you wanted to feel smug about voting against both major parties. Good fucking job. A real hero. I bet they’re erecting a statue to you in Gaza City right now out of the rubble you buried children under.

    No Tens of thousands of children are dead because the Democrats cared more about Israel, and their rich friends, and the military. But of course, I won't expect you to understand that, as it would involve reading, paying attention, and introspection.

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  • [–] 0 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    tldr.

    I don't interact with people who are too self important to vote against ethnic cleansing and fascism. Enjoy your clear conscience as entire villages in Lebanon get wiped out. You know who would still be alive if you voted strategically to defeat fascism? Two hundred Iranian schoolgirls. Good job. I guess child rape wasn't even bad enough to suck it up and do your civic duty.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

    I don’t interact with people who are too self important to vote against ethnic cleansing and fascism.

    Yet, presumeably you interact with other liberals? Weird.

    Enjoy your clear conscience as entire villages in Lebanon get wiped out. You know who would still be alive if you voted strategically to defeat fascism? Two hundred Iranian schoolgirls. Good job.

    How would they be alive? Trump would have still won. I also like how you ignore the children that Biden and Obama killed. I guess kids don't count when it's the Blue Team dropping the bombs.

    I guess child rape wasn’t even bad enough to suck it up and do your civic duty.

    As explained multiple times, I did my civic duty and voted against the child rapist. But the Other-Rapist decided that child-rape wasn't worth putting Trump in prison.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago (17 children)

    Unfortunately for us, and especially unfortunately for children in Gaza, Lebanon, and Iran, you want to feel good about voting more than you want to effect change.

    and some say irony is dead

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  • [–] 0 points 1 month ago (16 children)

    What irony? However bad you think Biden was, Trump is worse, and it's not close. I don't remember Biden endorsing ethnic cleansing of Gaza. A vote against fascism would have been a vote for Gazans and Lebanese. Instead we got the one president in 40 years stupid enough to invade Iran on Israel's behalf. Great fucking job!

    Adults vote strategically.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 month ago (14 children)

    you want to feel good about voting more than you want to effect change

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  • [–] 0 points 1 month ago (13 children)

    Voting strategically doesn't make me feel good. It sucks. However, it does effect change, so I do it. You should try it. On election day you might not appreciate it, but come inauguration day, or perhaps a few months later, you'll recognize the value in meaningfully participating in your democracy instead of complaining online about an outcome you didn't bother to influence.

    Millions of people are going to die because DOGE gutted USAID. That could easily have been prevented, and that's just the start.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago (12 children)

    you got the same result as people who voted for Jill Stein and the people who voted for Trump.

    that's not effective.

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  • [–] 0 points 1 month ago (11 children)

    "voting doesn't work because I don't always win"

    Wew that's some take.

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  • [–] 0 points 1 month ago (9 children)

    Nah. You said voting doesn't work because I got the same outcome as everyone else. That's stupid. Voting works fine when enough people do it and do it intelligently. Americans simply didn't in 2024. "Eggs expensive! Let's try fascism!"

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  • [–] 2 points 1 month ago (7 children)

    You said voting doesn’t work because I got the same outcome as everyone else.

    that's not what I said

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  • [–] 0 points 1 month ago (6 children)

    you got the same result as people who voted for Jill Stein and the people who voted for Trump.

    that’s not effective.

    Some memory you have.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 month ago (5 children)

    yeah. I remembered exactly what I said, and you couldn't even quote it one comment later.

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  • [–] 0 points 1 month ago (4 children)

    I suppose remembering what you said and knowing what words mean is different. Fascinating.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 month ago (3 children)

    rephrasing an argument to sound silly is the definition of a straw man. what I said is true.

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  • [–] 0 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    A strawman is where you invent a different argument, then defeat it. Rephrasing the exact argument you made in funnier language isn't a strawman. It's just what you said, but more plainly. "Voting doesn't work because I don't always get what I want." That's what you said in literal English.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago

    It shouldn't be, but it's still amazing to me that Libs have to keep creating arguments out of thin air, and putting words into other people's mouths. Of course, if they could stick to the facts and the discussion at hand, they woulnd't be libs.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago

    I don’t remember Biden endorsing ethnic cleansing of Gaza.

    That's becasuse you weren't paying attention. Why do libs think the things they ignore don't happen.

    Adults vote strategically.

    Indeed. That's why we kept telling the Democrats that they were going to lose. But they ignored us, and handed the presidency over to Trump.

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