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Anon the murderer (sh.itjust.works)
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[+] -10 points 1 month ago (12 children)

Killing a guy who is not trying to kill you is always grossly disproportionate, and murder is not an unreasonable label. The idea that just because a guy is trespassing on your property you can enact your heinous fantasies of violent death on them is deeply, deply psychopathic.

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  • [–] 9 points 1 month ago (7 children)

    I don't blame the boiling pot that burns me when I shove my fist into the boiling water.

    don't go into dangerous places at dangerous times with dangerous people, don't get shot.

    seems like pretty sound logic to me.

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  • [–] -1 points 1 month ago (6 children)

    Well yeah obviously you shouldn't break into houses. You also shouldn't cross the road when the pedestrian light is red, but if you do that doesn't justify a driver not trying to avoid killing you. People do stupid, dangerous and selfish shit, but death doesn't have to be the penalty.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

    Nonverbal communication exists. Breaking into someone's house, especially at night, is telling the people inside, "I'm here to rape or murder you."

    Sorry, but victims have a right to defend themselves. They have a right to use lethal violence to defend themselves. You break into someone's home and threaten the life of another? Getting shot is perfectly proportionate. "Grossly disproportionate" my ass. Lethal violence is a perfectly proportionate response to rape and murder.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 month ago (4 children)

    You also shouldn't cross the road when the pedestrian light is red

    there are laws that specifically state that. there are also laws that specifically protect pedestrians and give them the right-of-way.

    there are laws in place that specifically state not to break into homes. there are no laws that protect people from burglarizing a home. this is why damages are usually considered a "civil matter" because it's a disagreement between two parties that do not interest the general public.

    if you don't want to be shot, don't force your way into places where you will be shot, the law and public opinion will not be on your side.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago* (3 children)

    In many countries, there actually are laws requiring homeowners to keep their property reasonably safe for trespassers, even thieves. Mine is one. There was a case a few years ago where a guy got in serious trouble for deliberately planting exposed nails pointing out of his floorboards in his disused apartment to injure thieves.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    Those laws are to protect innocent people that might need to be in your home when you're not there. Like police performing a welfare check on people. Man traps are illegal because you can't ensure they only target unlawful intruders. And, most crucially, a trap is intended for cases where you are not present. If you're not present, no threat to your person can exist, only your property.

    Man traps and shooting someone in self defense are completely different scenarios. You're only using a firearm to defend yourself if you are physically present and at risk.

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  • [–] 17 points 1 month ago

    You can't know that someone who is breaking into your own home is not ready to kill you. There are people out there who are ready to kill just to get your valuables. Being hesitant could potentially mean that you end up dead cos the intruder shoots first since they don't hesitate. If you break into someones home, you gotta be ready to face the consequences.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago (2 children)

    YOU are psychopathic. You have your own life and your family's lives to protect. Why should a violent criminal have more right to life that your own innocent family?

    If someone is breaking into your home, you should assume the worst, and defend your home and family to the extreme.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    Seriously. So many psycho rapist apologists in this thread. They bend over backwards to find any excuse why the potential rapist deserves the benefit of the doubt, but in turn they don't extend that grace to the potential victim. I believe victims, that's why I fully support home intruders being shot.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago

    Of course. And if someone was breaking into their house, they'd be grabbing a gun, too.

    No they won't, they don't have a gun, they've already signed up to be a victim.

    I'm not a righty, but I still see the value in firearms for self-defense.

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