▲ 1067 ▼ Bernie Sanders proposes 20 year prison sentence for AI devs who plow ahead with Artificial Superintelligence plans - penalty on par with illegally developing rogue nuclear weapons (www.tomshardware.com) submitted 1 month ago by Mustachius_Grumpius@thelemmy.club to c/technology@lemmy.world 150 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[+] spacegoat@lemmy.world 131 points 1 month ago (14 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source hideshow 14 child comments replies: [–] Snowclone@lemmy.world 46 points 1 month ago (8 children) Americans are INSANE about how much the want criminals punished, in CA a guy got a life sentence for stealing a pizza when we tried to have a ''three strikes your out'' law that automatically gave life sentences at any third conviction which is fucking crazy in a state with tack on laws to the point you can get convicted of 10+ crimes on almost every single infraction, if you commit a felony with a pen or pencil in your pocket, that's possession of a lethal weapon! it's absurd. it's still on the books the three strikes law, but it's unenforceable because apparently having 60% of your population in prison for life is not a great plan for a civilization. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 26 points 1 month ago* America has Private Prisons + Slavery is literally legal in the US for those in Prison. As usual, it's performative moralism hiding the real reason: $$$. permalink fedilink source parent [–] reksas@sopuli.xyz 17 points 1 month ago got to have stable source of slave labour permalink fedilink source parent [–] 0x0@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 month ago Murica! permalink fedilink source parent [–] darkwing_duck@sh.itjust.works -2 points 1 month ago (4 children) Automatic life sentence is too much, maybe we can agree on an automatic 15 year sentence? Also, 60% of the population committing felonies is insanity. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Snowclone@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago* (3 children) it's really easy to make 60% of your population commit a felony. you just continue to pass laws with the assumption that draconian punishments deter crime. and you keep making lesser and lesser crimes felonies, and punishments harsher, and you can have judges who just want to funnel people into prison to fund their own personal investments. it also helps to have corrupt cops that want to make those felony collars to get promotions and raises. cops literally train each other to escalate things to felonies or find felony charges where clearly none should exist like calling a box cutter a 'gravity knife' and charging a felony and if that person isn't hiring a quality lawyer the public defender with 600 cases says 'you have 15 min of my time for this case, I glanced at it, I recommend you take a plea deal, our time is up, what's your decision?' permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] darkwing_duck@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 month ago (2 children) Hey, you're spot on with your example. I got arrested for a pocket knife which the officer managed to forcefully fling open and the charge was possession of a weapon in the 4th degree ("gravity knife"), a class A misdemeanor. I got a public defender, who got me a plea deal of 30 hours community service and not getting arrested for a year to get the case dismissed without a conviction. They also tried to claim I drove drunk, but alas I blew a 0.0000 on their breathalyzer, so that was a fail. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Snowclone@lemmy.world 1 point 1 month ago (1 child) NYPD officers got caught on a massage board explaining in detail how to claim any knife at all could be called a gravity knife to get better arrest records for promotions, that's why I used that example. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] darkwing_duck@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 month ago Side note, a judge finally ruled that "gravity knives" are legal in NY in 2017, so that particular "gotcha" is not a thing anymore. permalink fedilink source parent [–] njordomir@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago That stuck out to me too. Who knew AK-47 and Sour Zzzkittles carried more prison time than enriched Uranium. To be fair, they'll include a bunch of other charges for both scenarios. permalink fedilink source parent [–] GalacticGrapefruit@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago Imagine getting thrown into the oubliette for growing Girl Scout Cookies next to the roses. permalink fedilink source parent [–] xrs@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago (2 children) Well, they were probably trying to develop that weed into rogue nuclear weapons. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Lumisal@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago (1 child) Wouldn't work. You'll get blasted high, but what the missing is the mushroom permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] 0x0@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 month ago Yeah that's another drug. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Snowclone@lemmy.world 46 points 1 month ago (8 children) Americans are INSANE about how much the want criminals punished, in CA a guy got a life sentence for stealing a pizza when we tried to have a ''three strikes your out'' law that automatically gave life sentences at any third conviction which is fucking crazy in a state with tack on laws to the point you can get convicted of 10+ crimes on almost every single infraction, if you commit a felony with a pen or pencil in your pocket, that's possession of a lethal weapon! it's absurd. it's still on the books the three strikes law, but it's unenforceable because apparently having 60% of your population in prison for life is not a great plan for a civilization. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 26 points 1 month ago* America has Private Prisons + Slavery is literally legal in the US for those in Prison. As usual, it's performative moralism hiding the real reason: $$$. permalink fedilink source parent [–] reksas@sopuli.xyz 17 points 1 month ago got to have stable source of slave labour permalink fedilink source parent [–] 0x0@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 month ago Murica! permalink fedilink source parent [–] darkwing_duck@sh.itjust.works -2 points 1 month ago (4 children) Automatic life sentence is too much, maybe we can agree on an automatic 15 year sentence? Also, 60% of the population committing felonies is insanity. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Snowclone@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago* (3 children) it's really easy to make 60% of your population commit a felony. you just continue to pass laws with the assumption that draconian punishments deter crime. and you keep making lesser and lesser crimes felonies, and punishments harsher, and you can have judges who just want to funnel people into prison to fund their own personal investments. it also helps to have corrupt cops that want to make those felony collars to get promotions and raises. cops literally train each other to escalate things to felonies or find felony charges where clearly none should exist like calling a box cutter a 'gravity knife' and charging a felony and if that person isn't hiring a quality lawyer the public defender with 600 cases says 'you have 15 min of my time for this case, I glanced at it, I recommend you take a plea deal, our time is up, what's your decision?' permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] darkwing_duck@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 month ago (2 children) Hey, you're spot on with your example. I got arrested for a pocket knife which the officer managed to forcefully fling open and the charge was possession of a weapon in the 4th degree ("gravity knife"), a class A misdemeanor. I got a public defender, who got me a plea deal of 30 hours community service and not getting arrested for a year to get the case dismissed without a conviction. They also tried to claim I drove drunk, but alas I blew a 0.0000 on their breathalyzer, so that was a fail. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Snowclone@lemmy.world 1 point 1 month ago (1 child) NYPD officers got caught on a massage board explaining in detail how to claim any knife at all could be called a gravity knife to get better arrest records for promotions, that's why I used that example. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] darkwing_duck@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 month ago Side note, a judge finally ruled that "gravity knives" are legal in NY in 2017, so that particular "gotcha" is not a thing anymore. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 26 points 1 month ago* America has Private Prisons + Slavery is literally legal in the US for those in Prison. As usual, it's performative moralism hiding the real reason: $$$. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] reksas@sopuli.xyz 17 points 1 month ago got to have stable source of slave labour permalink fedilink source parent
[–] darkwing_duck@sh.itjust.works -2 points 1 month ago (4 children) Automatic life sentence is too much, maybe we can agree on an automatic 15 year sentence? Also, 60% of the population committing felonies is insanity. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Snowclone@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago* (3 children) it's really easy to make 60% of your population commit a felony. you just continue to pass laws with the assumption that draconian punishments deter crime. and you keep making lesser and lesser crimes felonies, and punishments harsher, and you can have judges who just want to funnel people into prison to fund their own personal investments. it also helps to have corrupt cops that want to make those felony collars to get promotions and raises. cops literally train each other to escalate things to felonies or find felony charges where clearly none should exist like calling a box cutter a 'gravity knife' and charging a felony and if that person isn't hiring a quality lawyer the public defender with 600 cases says 'you have 15 min of my time for this case, I glanced at it, I recommend you take a plea deal, our time is up, what's your decision?' permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] darkwing_duck@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 month ago (2 children) Hey, you're spot on with your example. I got arrested for a pocket knife which the officer managed to forcefully fling open and the charge was possession of a weapon in the 4th degree ("gravity knife"), a class A misdemeanor. I got a public defender, who got me a plea deal of 30 hours community service and not getting arrested for a year to get the case dismissed without a conviction. They also tried to claim I drove drunk, but alas I blew a 0.0000 on their breathalyzer, so that was a fail. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Snowclone@lemmy.world 1 point 1 month ago (1 child) NYPD officers got caught on a massage board explaining in detail how to claim any knife at all could be called a gravity knife to get better arrest records for promotions, that's why I used that example. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] darkwing_duck@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 month ago Side note, a judge finally ruled that "gravity knives" are legal in NY in 2017, so that particular "gotcha" is not a thing anymore. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Snowclone@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago* (3 children) it's really easy to make 60% of your population commit a felony. you just continue to pass laws with the assumption that draconian punishments deter crime. and you keep making lesser and lesser crimes felonies, and punishments harsher, and you can have judges who just want to funnel people into prison to fund their own personal investments. it also helps to have corrupt cops that want to make those felony collars to get promotions and raises. cops literally train each other to escalate things to felonies or find felony charges where clearly none should exist like calling a box cutter a 'gravity knife' and charging a felony and if that person isn't hiring a quality lawyer the public defender with 600 cases says 'you have 15 min of my time for this case, I glanced at it, I recommend you take a plea deal, our time is up, what's your decision?' permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] darkwing_duck@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 month ago (2 children) Hey, you're spot on with your example. I got arrested for a pocket knife which the officer managed to forcefully fling open and the charge was possession of a weapon in the 4th degree ("gravity knife"), a class A misdemeanor. I got a public defender, who got me a plea deal of 30 hours community service and not getting arrested for a year to get the case dismissed without a conviction. They also tried to claim I drove drunk, but alas I blew a 0.0000 on their breathalyzer, so that was a fail. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Snowclone@lemmy.world 1 point 1 month ago (1 child) NYPD officers got caught on a massage board explaining in detail how to claim any knife at all could be called a gravity knife to get better arrest records for promotions, that's why I used that example. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] darkwing_duck@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 month ago Side note, a judge finally ruled that "gravity knives" are legal in NY in 2017, so that particular "gotcha" is not a thing anymore. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] darkwing_duck@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 month ago (2 children) Hey, you're spot on with your example. I got arrested for a pocket knife which the officer managed to forcefully fling open and the charge was possession of a weapon in the 4th degree ("gravity knife"), a class A misdemeanor. I got a public defender, who got me a plea deal of 30 hours community service and not getting arrested for a year to get the case dismissed without a conviction. They also tried to claim I drove drunk, but alas I blew a 0.0000 on their breathalyzer, so that was a fail. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Snowclone@lemmy.world 1 point 1 month ago (1 child) NYPD officers got caught on a massage board explaining in detail how to claim any knife at all could be called a gravity knife to get better arrest records for promotions, that's why I used that example. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] darkwing_duck@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 month ago Side note, a judge finally ruled that "gravity knives" are legal in NY in 2017, so that particular "gotcha" is not a thing anymore. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Snowclone@lemmy.world 1 point 1 month ago (1 child) NYPD officers got caught on a massage board explaining in detail how to claim any knife at all could be called a gravity knife to get better arrest records for promotions, that's why I used that example. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] darkwing_duck@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 month ago Side note, a judge finally ruled that "gravity knives" are legal in NY in 2017, so that particular "gotcha" is not a thing anymore. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] darkwing_duck@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 month ago Side note, a judge finally ruled that "gravity knives" are legal in NY in 2017, so that particular "gotcha" is not a thing anymore. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] njordomir@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago That stuck out to me too. Who knew AK-47 and Sour Zzzkittles carried more prison time than enriched Uranium. To be fair, they'll include a bunch of other charges for both scenarios. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] GalacticGrapefruit@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago Imagine getting thrown into the oubliette for growing Girl Scout Cookies next to the roses. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] xrs@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago (2 children) Well, they were probably trying to develop that weed into rogue nuclear weapons. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Lumisal@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago (1 child) Wouldn't work. You'll get blasted high, but what the missing is the mushroom permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] 0x0@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 month ago Yeah that's another drug. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Lumisal@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago (1 child) Wouldn't work. You'll get blasted high, but what the missing is the mushroom permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] 0x0@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 month ago Yeah that's another drug. permalink fedilink source parent