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Democrats eye a new tool to hold Trump accountable if they win the House (www.cnn.com)
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With two months until the midterm elections, Democrats are laying the groundwork to launch far-reaching investigations into the Trump administration and preparing for high-stakes court battles if they win control of the House of Representatives in November.

Donald Trump’s war with Iran, his White House ballroom project, his family’s business dealings and the administration’s handling of the Jeffrey Epstein files will be among the top targets of investigations if Democrats take back the House, according to conversations with over a dozen Democratic lawmakers and aides.

Democrats don’t want to squander the opportunity to act as a check on Trump if they reclaim the majority and say they have learned a lot since the last time the party controlled the House while Trump was in office. Few say they are interested in launching an impeachment process on day one, and many instead are eyeing a new tool that would be at their disposal to try to quickly compel the testimony and documents they seek: lawsuits.

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[–] 28 points 1 month ago (4 children)

Article III section 2 of the US Constitution.

The judicial Power shall extend to all Cases, in Law and Equity, arising under this Constitution, the Laws of the United States, and Treaties made, or which shall be made, under their Authority;—to all Cases affecting Ambassadors, other public Ministers and Consuls;—to all Cases of admiralty and maritime Jurisdiction;—to Controversies to which the United States shall be a Party;—to Controversies between two or more States;—between a State and Citizens of another State,—between Citizens of different States,—between Citizens of the same State claiming Lands under Grants of different States, and between a State, or the Citizens thereof, and foreign States, Citizens or Subjects.

Congress can say the President has done something illegal. The President can say they have not done anything illegal. You now have a controversy. The Constitution indicates that the judicial power will now handled it.

To sue someone or something means in the strictest of senses, "I wish to bring this matter before a court of law." So a controversy has arisen, the courts have the right to review it. The Constitution outlines who is allowed to do what, and nobody is allowed to step out of that. So if a controversy wasn't present, the the courts would have no jurisdiction.

Congress believes there is a controversy and thus they are suing. That means they wish to bring the controversy to the thing that's indicated in the Constitution to settle such a thing.

However, you run into the very first question, "Is it a TRUE controversy? Or is it just a disagreement?" This is the no political questions doctrine. Congress and the President routinely disagree on things. The Courts aren't there to settle a disagreement. It has to be a genuine controversy. That means "The law objectively says XYZ. The President specifically did not do XYZ. Ergo, this is not a disagreement but a President who is not following the letter of the law which is a controversy."

So like anything Congress brings up, the President is allowed to say it's not a controversy. What the ruling on that question, the President or Congress can appeal it. If the appeal isn't good enough, the Supreme Court gets to make a final ruling. Once a controversy has been established, THEN, there's the actual case. The the final decision of the case can be appealed and then brought before the Supreme Court.

Rarely do we actually get that far with things because you can't get all that stuff done within a single President's term. And the real reason a Controversy is attempted is to get discovery and things the President has been doing on the public record. Depends on what Congress is looking for. Perhaps they want to ensure Musk stays out of politics forever, a deep and heavy discovery process into him may just do that.

But Congress can bring a suit to the Courts so long as it's within the powers of the Constitution for Congress to do so.

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  • [–] 9 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

    Thanks for all this.

    I understand what suing is (or at least I assume it's not that far off from tort law)

    What I don't understand is why the democrats would have to have the majority in the house of representatives to sue. Does it have to be congress to sue? Doesn't the blurb say citizens can sue? In this case does congress mean the senate or the house of representatives? Either or both?

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  • [–] 9 points 1 month ago

    What would seem likely to me is that if the party making the charge is 'the house' as a separate entity then you would need a majority willing to vote to support such an action. As the authors of law they would have some authority to speak to the to the intent of it, thus standing.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago

    As you've discovered, there's another element before a court accepts a case. Standing.

    To have standing, you must show that you have a personal and direct stake in the outcome. You cannot sue just because you are angry or disagree with a law. Courts only solve real, active disputes, not hypothetical questions.

    Congress has to bring the suit. Courts have routinely held that in order for "Congress" to have standing in court, they must show that "Congress" has a direct stake in the outcome. To show they do so have such a stake, they routinely vote on a Resolution to establish that Congress as a body is bringing the case.

    So while individual members might try to bring a case, it really depends on what's to be litigated before the court. A President not following the law usually indicates that Congress who created the law, is the one who is to bring it. But if the President does something that affects specifically a single member, then that member by themselves would have standing.

    Citizens can sue if they can show they were directly harmed and have a direct stake in some resolution to the harm.

    As far as, the Senate or the House, it depends on the injury being talked about. A simple resolution from a single chamber is the most common when the injury is specific to that chamber. A joint or concurrent resolution (by both chambers) usually is to address a broad power violation. It really depends and it's up to the Judge to uses what's come before as a guide.

    The House usually originates the spending, and so if that's the topic, usually just the House is enough. If the President is abusing something like war powers, then that is indicated in the Constitution as "Congress" as in the entire thing. So both chambers might be needed to have standing, unless the issue at hand is that "The President has abused their war powers and not reported to the House Oversight Committee". In that case, the argument is that the President isn't reporting their abuse to a single chamber and thus only the House is required to have standing. Same if the Senate is conducting an investigation and the President refuses the subpoena. The injury is just to the Senate in that case.

    It all depends on how the entire thing is brought before the court.

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