▲ 110 ▼ Saudi's Remaining Energy Lifeline To The World Under Threat After Successful Houthi Strikes (Updated) (www.twz.com) submitted 2 months ago by supersquirrel@lemmy.ca to c/world 55 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] HugeNerd@lemmy.ca 1 point 2 months ago (7 children) Good luck sustaining 8 billion people without it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] AviAdi@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago (6 children) I know! Hell, good luck having a "renewables" transition without it! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] HugeNerd@lemmy.ca 5 points 2 months ago (5 children) All of human history up to about the mid-19th century was based on renewable resources. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] AviAdi@lemmy.world 1 point 2 months ago (4 children) So true. We were one with the earth (except for the deforestation of vast swaths of lands) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] HugeNerd@lemmy.ca 0 points 2 months ago (3 children) That's entirely renewable when it's done with human labor. Renewable doesn't mean "one with the earth" or whatever hippy-dippy thing you think. Fossil fuels on the one hand allow deforestation on an unimaginable scale but also allow artificial accelerated regrowth with mechanization and fertilization. Also, what "vast" swaths of land were deforested before coal power or oil power that threatened all of humanity or were not regrowing within a generation? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] AviAdi@lemmy.world 1 point 2 months ago (2 children) I was referring to parts of Europe regarding the vast (Ireland comes to mind). And I question whether it was renewable because when you wipe out a whole forest it may change the ecology of the land. Technically you are correct on a long enough time scale the trees may grow back. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] HugeNerd@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 months ago (1 child) It is renewable because no external source of energy besides wind and solar was accessible. It drastically limits the outlay of energy and sheer power humans can bring to bear to our projects as compared to fossil fuels. The Wright Brothers strapped a gas engine to a kite and in about half a century we played golf on the Moon. This wasn't because of some miraculous species-wide boost in IQ in three generations: it was the 1.4 million pounds of kerosene that did it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] AviAdi@lemmy.world 1 point 2 months ago* You seem knowledgeable. Do you think an oil shortage is coming? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] AviAdi@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago (6 children) I know! Hell, good luck having a "renewables" transition without it! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] HugeNerd@lemmy.ca 5 points 2 months ago (5 children) All of human history up to about the mid-19th century was based on renewable resources. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] AviAdi@lemmy.world 1 point 2 months ago (4 children) So true. We were one with the earth (except for the deforestation of vast swaths of lands) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] HugeNerd@lemmy.ca 0 points 2 months ago (3 children) That's entirely renewable when it's done with human labor. Renewable doesn't mean "one with the earth" or whatever hippy-dippy thing you think. Fossil fuels on the one hand allow deforestation on an unimaginable scale but also allow artificial accelerated regrowth with mechanization and fertilization. Also, what "vast" swaths of land were deforested before coal power or oil power that threatened all of humanity or were not regrowing within a generation? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] AviAdi@lemmy.world 1 point 2 months ago (2 children) I was referring to parts of Europe regarding the vast (Ireland comes to mind). And I question whether it was renewable because when you wipe out a whole forest it may change the ecology of the land. Technically you are correct on a long enough time scale the trees may grow back. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] HugeNerd@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 months ago (1 child) It is renewable because no external source of energy besides wind and solar was accessible. It drastically limits the outlay of energy and sheer power humans can bring to bear to our projects as compared to fossil fuels. The Wright Brothers strapped a gas engine to a kite and in about half a century we played golf on the Moon. This wasn't because of some miraculous species-wide boost in IQ in three generations: it was the 1.4 million pounds of kerosene that did it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] AviAdi@lemmy.world 1 point 2 months ago* You seem knowledgeable. Do you think an oil shortage is coming? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] HugeNerd@lemmy.ca 5 points 2 months ago (5 children) All of human history up to about the mid-19th century was based on renewable resources. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] AviAdi@lemmy.world 1 point 2 months ago (4 children) So true. We were one with the earth (except for the deforestation of vast swaths of lands) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] HugeNerd@lemmy.ca 0 points 2 months ago (3 children) That's entirely renewable when it's done with human labor. Renewable doesn't mean "one with the earth" or whatever hippy-dippy thing you think. Fossil fuels on the one hand allow deforestation on an unimaginable scale but also allow artificial accelerated regrowth with mechanization and fertilization. Also, what "vast" swaths of land were deforested before coal power or oil power that threatened all of humanity or were not regrowing within a generation? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] AviAdi@lemmy.world 1 point 2 months ago (2 children) I was referring to parts of Europe regarding the vast (Ireland comes to mind). And I question whether it was renewable because when you wipe out a whole forest it may change the ecology of the land. Technically you are correct on a long enough time scale the trees may grow back. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] HugeNerd@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 months ago (1 child) It is renewable because no external source of energy besides wind and solar was accessible. It drastically limits the outlay of energy and sheer power humans can bring to bear to our projects as compared to fossil fuels. The Wright Brothers strapped a gas engine to a kite and in about half a century we played golf on the Moon. This wasn't because of some miraculous species-wide boost in IQ in three generations: it was the 1.4 million pounds of kerosene that did it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] AviAdi@lemmy.world 1 point 2 months ago* You seem knowledgeable. Do you think an oil shortage is coming? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] AviAdi@lemmy.world 1 point 2 months ago (4 children) So true. We were one with the earth (except for the deforestation of vast swaths of lands) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] HugeNerd@lemmy.ca 0 points 2 months ago (3 children) That's entirely renewable when it's done with human labor. Renewable doesn't mean "one with the earth" or whatever hippy-dippy thing you think. Fossil fuels on the one hand allow deforestation on an unimaginable scale but also allow artificial accelerated regrowth with mechanization and fertilization. Also, what "vast" swaths of land were deforested before coal power or oil power that threatened all of humanity or were not regrowing within a generation? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] AviAdi@lemmy.world 1 point 2 months ago (2 children) I was referring to parts of Europe regarding the vast (Ireland comes to mind). And I question whether it was renewable because when you wipe out a whole forest it may change the ecology of the land. Technically you are correct on a long enough time scale the trees may grow back. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] HugeNerd@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 months ago (1 child) It is renewable because no external source of energy besides wind and solar was accessible. It drastically limits the outlay of energy and sheer power humans can bring to bear to our projects as compared to fossil fuels. The Wright Brothers strapped a gas engine to a kite and in about half a century we played golf on the Moon. This wasn't because of some miraculous species-wide boost in IQ in three generations: it was the 1.4 million pounds of kerosene that did it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] AviAdi@lemmy.world 1 point 2 months ago* You seem knowledgeable. Do you think an oil shortage is coming? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] HugeNerd@lemmy.ca 0 points 2 months ago (3 children) That's entirely renewable when it's done with human labor. Renewable doesn't mean "one with the earth" or whatever hippy-dippy thing you think. Fossil fuels on the one hand allow deforestation on an unimaginable scale but also allow artificial accelerated regrowth with mechanization and fertilization. Also, what "vast" swaths of land were deforested before coal power or oil power that threatened all of humanity or were not regrowing within a generation? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] AviAdi@lemmy.world 1 point 2 months ago (2 children) I was referring to parts of Europe regarding the vast (Ireland comes to mind). And I question whether it was renewable because when you wipe out a whole forest it may change the ecology of the land. Technically you are correct on a long enough time scale the trees may grow back. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] HugeNerd@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 months ago (1 child) It is renewable because no external source of energy besides wind and solar was accessible. It drastically limits the outlay of energy and sheer power humans can bring to bear to our projects as compared to fossil fuels. The Wright Brothers strapped a gas engine to a kite and in about half a century we played golf on the Moon. This wasn't because of some miraculous species-wide boost in IQ in three generations: it was the 1.4 million pounds of kerosene that did it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] AviAdi@lemmy.world 1 point 2 months ago* You seem knowledgeable. Do you think an oil shortage is coming? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] AviAdi@lemmy.world 1 point 2 months ago (2 children) I was referring to parts of Europe regarding the vast (Ireland comes to mind). And I question whether it was renewable because when you wipe out a whole forest it may change the ecology of the land. Technically you are correct on a long enough time scale the trees may grow back. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] HugeNerd@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 months ago (1 child) It is renewable because no external source of energy besides wind and solar was accessible. It drastically limits the outlay of energy and sheer power humans can bring to bear to our projects as compared to fossil fuels. The Wright Brothers strapped a gas engine to a kite and in about half a century we played golf on the Moon. This wasn't because of some miraculous species-wide boost in IQ in three generations: it was the 1.4 million pounds of kerosene that did it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] AviAdi@lemmy.world 1 point 2 months ago* You seem knowledgeable. Do you think an oil shortage is coming? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] HugeNerd@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 months ago (1 child) It is renewable because no external source of energy besides wind and solar was accessible. It drastically limits the outlay of energy and sheer power humans can bring to bear to our projects as compared to fossil fuels. The Wright Brothers strapped a gas engine to a kite and in about half a century we played golf on the Moon. This wasn't because of some miraculous species-wide boost in IQ in three generations: it was the 1.4 million pounds of kerosene that did it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] AviAdi@lemmy.world 1 point 2 months ago* You seem knowledgeable. Do you think an oil shortage is coming? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] AviAdi@lemmy.world 1 point 2 months ago* You seem knowledgeable. Do you think an oil shortage is coming? permalink fedilink source parent