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[–] 25 points 2 months ago (40 children)

The democratic party accomplished all of its goals during the biden administration: they sold weapons for genocide.

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  • [–] 16 points 2 months ago (20 children)

    People hate when you say it, but the Democratic Party is Controlled Opposition.

    A bunch of them are just paid to lose.

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  • [–] -4 points 2 months ago (19 children)

    "A bunch" is roughly three. Sinema, Fetterman, and, uh... I'm sure there's one more.

    It's easier to stop things than to pass things. You'll notice Republicans aren't getting a lot done right now, exactly. At least not through Congress.

    They're doing so many blatantly illegal things, largely with the blessing of the DoJ and the Supreme Court. But they can't get the SAVE Act through to stop us from voting.

    It turns out every bit matters.

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  • [–] 12 points 2 months ago (13 children)

    “A bunch” is roughly three. Sinema, Fetterman, and, uh…

    If you can't name more than two Senators... Jesus, dude. Maybe start with Henry Cuellar and Bob Menendez. Ritchie Torres. Elissa Slotkin. Eric Swalwell. Josh Gottheimer. Do I really need to make you the full list?

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  • [–] 11 points 2 months ago (11 children)

    Whenever there is a democratic majority, just enough Democrats will turn to make any actual change impossible, like a public option with Obama. Or when the blue dog Democrats fucked healthcare reform under Clinton. It's happened every time and will continue to happen because the ratchet effect is a feature that always ends in facism and oligarchy, which is where you make your real money.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    The ratchet effect is real, but it's because when the Dems have a majority they're relying on West Virginia. Republicans kiss the ring or they're kicked from politics, just look at Ted Cruz.

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  • [–] 4 points 2 months ago

    when the Dems have a majority they’re relying on West Virginia

    They're relying on a billionaire scion of a coal dynasty. Plenty of working class labor friendly people in WV. But the Dem Senate committee won't touch any of them.

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  • [–] -4 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (7 children)

    Is that why Biden got more progressive change through than any prior president despite record breaking political resistance?

    You need break the dependency on the idiots who talk about fake "bipartisanship", like Manchin

    When get only get small majorities, these damn idiots gets a say, you need to make those dumbasses irrelevant

    https://edition.cnn.com/2024/03/21/politics/joe-manchin-nominees-bipartisan-support

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  • [–] 4 points 2 months ago (4 children)

    Biden got more progressive change through

    He did not. He got more "bipartisan" changes, and we've lowered the bar for what that means

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  • [–] 3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

    Kutter points out that “Joe Biden is the first president in recent memory to press for significantly higher taxes on the very rich.”

    Individual tax rates did not change under Biden

    This couple with the tangible benefits provided through his America Recovery Act, the Building Back Better Initiative and Infrastructure Investment Act; could help Democrats in 2024 among swing voters

    None of these were progressive. They were all tax benefits and grants to big business, specifically in the tech industry. And these businesses were largely aligned with the Trump coalition.

    Also, Jesus Christ, please include a "Jump to Recipe" on this article so I can find your points without an hour of scrolling.

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  • [–] -1 points 2 months ago (1 child)
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    Biden is only progressive to those who consider genocide to be progress.

    You support absolutely nothing but genocide and that will never change.

    Like every last centrist.

    Now bring the gaslighting and abuse.

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  • [–] 6 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (4 children)

    Jeffries, Schumer, Pelosi, Kaine, Booker… pretty much anyone not in the squad or otherwise on the AIPAC tiddy

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  • [+] -8 points 2 months ago (3 children)

    The neolibs are not responsible for the majority of our problems.

    Their biggest crimes are Israel and not being aggressive enough on changes. They're not the ones preventing most of the legislation we've tried to pass, such as the public option with the ACA.

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  • [–] -1 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    As far as you're concerned, their biggest crime is not supporting genocide even harder.

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  • [–] 0 points 1 month ago

    can you read I'm not American and have no dog in this fight apart from not wanting the USA to fuck the world worse than currently, but they literally mentioned genocide/Israel being their biggest crime

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  • [+] -9 points 2 months ago (18 children)

    I like it when people focus on one thing and ignore all the actual accomplishments. Or maybe you aren't ignoring them. Maybe you're entirely ignorant of them.

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  • [–] 7 points 2 months ago (16 children)

    Petty concessions do not obscure the overt imperialist oppression.

    "I don't care about the fact we support genocide so long as I get better quality of life."

    What a fucked mentality. Go find your solidarity with the oppressed.

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  • [–] 6 points 2 months ago (15 children)

    He doesn't care about quality of life as long as he gets his genocide.

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  • [+] -6 points 2 months ago (14 children)

    Why are you helping Republicans guarantee the genocide continues?

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  • [–] 6 points 2 months ago (13 children)

    You don't care who wins as long as anti-genocide candidates aren't on the ballot.

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  • [–] -5 points 2 months ago (12 children)

    You're either knowingly lying or not taking your meds

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  • [–] 6 points 2 months ago* (11 children)

    Abuse: for when centrists can't defend their only policy.

    You need to update your script. Criticizing biden isn't helping trump win. The election is over and genocide won like you want in all cases.

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  • [–] -5 points 2 months ago* (10 children)

    Yeah, you think I'm a centrist, you definitely need to take your meds. I probably criticized the support for Israel earlier than you and more vocally than you.

    You decided the world is black and white, so you're even attacking people who should be your allies because you think they're the wrong flavor of progressive

    You'd rather let a Republican win than an insufficiently pure Democrat. And your purity check isn't even about their real actions and words, but your vibes and if you feel they're a part of your little tribe.

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  • [–] 6 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (6 children)

    You literally said I was helping trump win by criticizing the genocidal shit you worship after the election was over.

    I don't believe for an instant that there is anything in this world that you want but the extinction of the Palestinian people.

    Your "take your meds" gaslighting is what you use instead of actual arguments because your position is indefensible.

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  • [–] -5 points 2 months ago* (5 children)

    You have lost your fucking mind. I'm arguing for preventing harm and saving lives and that's what you say is indefensible.

    If you actually care the solution is to support better candidates, not to campaign on behalf of Republicans by giving them ammo, not discouraging others who are trying to rally support for the better candidates, etc.

    You have decided no other approach than yours is acceptable, and therefore everybody who makes you feel uncomfortable must be genocidal murderers. But the problem is that feeling of discomfort is caused by your own failure to understand the world. That's your fault, not mine. Go delete your account, that's the fastest way you can improve the world right now.

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  • [–] 3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (4 children)

    I’m arguing for preventing harm and saving lives

    It's neat how "preventing harm" always involves letting through the harm centrists want.

    not discouraging others who are trying to rally support for the better candidates, etc.

    There is no "better" when both available candidates support genocide. There's only "worst" and "second worst."

    You have decided no other approach than yours is acceptable

    Genocide is unacceptable. Not to you, though.

    and therefore everybody who makes you feel uncomfortable must be genocidal murderers.

    Not everyone is comforted by genocide like you.

    But the problem is that feeling of discomfort is caused by your own failure to understand the world.

    I understand it fine. My opposition to the only thing you stand for, have ever stood for, or will ever stand for is not a lack of understanding.

    Go delete your account, that’s the fastest way you can improve the world right now.

    Telling me to kill myself in veiled language so it's acceptable to the moderation team. Neat.

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  • [–] -2 points 2 months ago (3 children)

    Who the fuck is giving centrists what they want here?

    You're sinking the candidates who oppose genocide and then you fucking brag when things get worse "because at least I'M not responsible" when you share responsibility for giving Trump a chance to make it worse

    Well I'm sorry for understanding how the world works!

    You saw the deaths increase under Trump and feel comforted that the deaths have an (R) label.

    You told yourself that means you're against genocide. Newsflash, it's not. When you take actions that increase deaths while knowing your action will increase deaths, you're pro-death.

    And you knew, because you were told.

    That means the good conscience you have right now was comforted by your own actions contributing to genocide. You're just pretending you have no responsibility for it, again, because they have a different label.

    By insisting you oppose everything I stand for, you're declaring alignment with fucking Trump.

    You're fucking hallucinating. You can't accept you're wrong so everybody who calls you out must be evil. You can't imagine a rational compassionate person would want to act different than you, so they must be lying. Anybody telling you to stop must be a hateful person wanting you dead. And you feel comfortable lying about them in response because you're a fucking tribalist little shit that examplifies the horseshoe theory, you hold the exact same beliefs as MAGA types but with some fake leftist label on it. You think your actions are good by definition because you took them and my actions are bad by definition because I'm not in your tribe. That makes you a piece of shit.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 months ago (2 children)
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    wrong flavor of progressive

    This asshole is calling genocide progressive.

    I probably criticized the support for Israel earlier than you and more vocally than you.

    And he's going around claiming Biden and Harris were anti genocide, and flat out lying about casualty numbers to defend them.

    insufficiently pure Democrat

    Genocide is sufficiently pure to him.

    And your purity check isn't even about their real actions and words

    Says the genocide apologist claiming Biden and Harris were anti genocide.

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  • [–] 0 points 1 month ago* (1 child)

    This asshole is defending Trump's genocide and blaming me for trying to stop it, because my flavor of stopping it is wrong

    https://www.military.com/trump-administration-israel-planning-28-billion-sale-of-2000-pound-bombs

    This is the future you wanted. More bombs to israel, it's what YOU were told would happen AND YOU WANTED THIS

    This is on you, not me. You're a hypocrite, liar, and insecure enough to lash out just from being told your approach is wrong. You have literally no justification whatsoever for believing I "support genocide", it's entirely exclusively based on you feeling uncomfortably with being called out so you have to frame me as a bad guy.

    WHO THE FUCK MADE NETANYAHU MAD? NOT TRUMP

    Netanyahu was outraged at Biden putting pressure on him and happy Trump won, extremely happy that Trump FUCKING JOINED HIM IN WAR AGAINST IRAN

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  • [–] 0 points 1 month ago

    I'm Palestinian. Israel stole my Homeland and I'm no longer allowed to go there. I've lost family in the nakba, I've lost family fighting in the Palestinian/Jordanian military fighting Israel, and I've lost family in the recent genocide. Biden's genocide that Trump is continuing.

    Fuck all these psychopaths that want to pretend Biden was against the genocided when to this day his short period of overseeing it still caused the vast majority of killing, destruction, racist rhetoric, and ethnic cleansing, just because they want to go back to the status quo of ethnic cleansing Palestine while having domestic stability.

    I have not once, not ever, defended Trump. This ghoul keeps bending reality to defend Biden. He deserves all the pain and suffering Trump brings him, and we (Palestinians) consider him the same as any Zionist, because their end goal is the same. Let us all die or become refugees, as long as they don't hear about it.

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