Natanael comments on When the Democrats regain power, their centrist leadership will claim, "We can't do anything because...". Don't be fooled. We need to get the corporate centrists out and real progressives in!

[–] Natanael@infosec.pub -5 points 2 months ago* (5 children)

You have lost your fucking mind. I'm arguing for preventing harm and saving lives and that's what you say is indefensible.

If you actually care the solution is to support better candidates, not to campaign on behalf of Republicans by giving them ammo, not discouraging others who are trying to rally support for the better candidates, etc.

You have decided no other approach than yours is acceptable, and therefore everybody who makes you feel uncomfortable must be genocidal murderers. But the problem is that feeling of discomfort is caused by your own failure to understand the world. That's your fault, not mine. Go delete your account, that's the fastest way you can improve the world right now.

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[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (4 children)

I’m arguing for preventing harm and saving lives

It's neat how "preventing harm" always involves letting through the harm centrists want.

not discouraging others who are trying to rally support for the better candidates, etc.

There is no "better" when both available candidates support genocide. There's only "worst" and "second worst."

You have decided no other approach than yours is acceptable

Genocide is unacceptable. Not to you, though.

and therefore everybody who makes you feel uncomfortable must be genocidal murderers.

Not everyone is comforted by genocide like you.

But the problem is that feeling of discomfort is caused by your own failure to understand the world.

I understand it fine. My opposition to the only thing you stand for, have ever stood for, or will ever stand for is not a lack of understanding.

Go delete your account, that’s the fastest way you can improve the world right now.

Telling me to kill myself in veiled language so it's acceptable to the moderation team. Neat.

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[–] Natanael@infosec.pub -2 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Who the fuck is giving centrists what they want here?

You're sinking the candidates who oppose genocide and then you fucking brag when things get worse "because at least I'M not responsible" when you share responsibility for giving Trump a chance to make it worse

Well I'm sorry for understanding how the world works!

You saw the deaths increase under Trump and feel comforted that the deaths have an (R) label.

You told yourself that means you're against genocide. Newsflash, it's not. When you take actions that increase deaths while knowing your action will increase deaths, you're pro-death.

And you knew, because you were told.

That means the good conscience you have right now was comforted by your own actions contributing to genocide. You're just pretending you have no responsibility for it, again, because they have a different label.

By insisting you oppose everything I stand for, you're declaring alignment with fucking Trump.

You're fucking hallucinating. You can't accept you're wrong so everybody who calls you out must be evil. You can't imagine a rational compassionate person would want to act different than you, so they must be lying. Anybody telling you to stop must be a hateful person wanting you dead. And you feel comfortable lying about them in response because you're a fucking tribalist little shit that examplifies the horseshoe theory, you hold the exact same beliefs as MAGA types but with some fake leftist label on it. You think your actions are good by definition because you took them and my actions are bad by definition because I'm not in your tribe. That makes you a piece of shit.

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