Just a warning to anyone else who thought that flex nibs looked interesting and, like me, didn't realize the requirements of needing to use one with existing scripts. Maybe this is obvious to a number of other people, but it wasn't to me.

I like the look of Spencerian script:

I figured, hey, I'm using a fountain pen, which unlike most other writing instruments, can take flex nibs and with them, do variable-width lines. Why not give Spencerian a shot?

I finally got a nib that has decent line width variation, a Fountain Pen Revolution EF Ultra Flex, and put it on a pen, and started practicing letter forms.

I promptly sliced through the paper. Repeatedly.

I took a closer look and realized what was going on.

Usually, when writing in cursive, the pen is at something like 45° from the line of text. I was doing the same when trying to write in Spencerian.

If you intend to write in Spencerian or Copperplate script, the nib must be perpendicular to the line of text, so that a vertical downward stroke is pulling directly towards the pen.

The calligraphy crowd typically uses dip pens that amount to just a nib, and can stick the thing in an oblique holder, so they can have their hand at a 45° angle to the paper, like normal, but still keep the nib aligned perpendicular to the line of text.

But a fountain pen user can't do that. They'd have a huge, unwieldy fountain pen hanging off an oblique holder. If they want to write in a script that requires that nib alignment, they must rotate their hand relative to the paper, and retrain themselves to write that way.

If you aren't really wanting to retrain yourself to write at a 45° angle from normal, you probably can't use flex-nib fountain pens to do Spencerian or Copperplate or similar.

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[–] [S] 1 point 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Apparently cancelleresca corsiva ("Chancery Cursive"), a sixteenth-century Italian script, is written with the pen held at roughly the 45° angle (Wikipedia says 45° and the image I provided below says 45°, but I also see some that say 30°). Two drawbacks, from my standpoint:

  • It looks, from what samples I see online in old manuscripts and in recreations, like it was really aimed at something analogous to a stub nib, not a flex nib, where the line width is determined entirely by the angle of the stroke. One could still write it with a flex nib, but not much point.

  • It doesn't look like it's cursive in the sense that I think of cursive, where there's a single stroke moving from letter to letter. Some samples online seem to have the pen be down between some letters, but not in the consistent sense that modern cursive does; it looks much closer to printing.

https://lemmy.today/pictrs/image/ce28636a-c35e-45c3-a3d3-ae38781a8a21.png

It doesn't look entirely-standardized, either; I see a lot of variation among samples online.

EDIT: No! I'm wrong. Line width---at least in the variant in the above image---is not entirely determined by stroke angle. If it were, it wouldn't be possible to get the tail of the "j" to come to a point; it'd look more like the tail on the "f". It's much closer to being entirely determined by stroke angle than the examples of Spencerian that I've seen, though.

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