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[–] 18 points 1 year ago (27 children)

I keep reading about some stupid American saying this, that. ELI5, are there any normal people in America and if there are, why do they elect the stupid ones?

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  • [+] 12 points 1 year ago (3 children)
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    one third for Trump, one third against, and one third couldn’t be bothered to vote are systematically and militantly disenfranchised.

    It should also be noted that Dems repeatedly rejected popular calls to neuter the fascist state - reforming immigration laws to guarantee a path to citizenship, defunding ICE and the DEA and other proto-fascist organs of the Federal government, reversing mandatory minimums, prosecuting bureaucrats for abuse of power, beefing up public defender budgets, nationalizing and dismantling prisons, etc.

    All popular goals. All achievable through reforms out of any single branch of government. All smothered within the last three decades of periodic liberal control.

    Biden/Harris siding with the genocidal Netanyahu government and going on an anti-immigration crusade during her VP tenure blurred the lines between Dem and GOP so heavily that people couldn't distinguish a difference.

    Just like with Gore in '00 and Clinton in '16 and their scramble to the far-right of the party to shore up support with mega-donors, the Dems seeded their own defeat and handed power willingly to fascist regime after fascist regime.

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  • [+] 2 points 1 year ago (1 child)
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    i don’t want to pretend there isn’t ALSO an apathy problem in the US.

    I think you'll discover the apathy in two main places:

    • Areas where Dems have very little influence locally, and people feel perpetually defeated and abandoned.
    • Areas where Dems have enormous control locally, and people feel betrayed by a government that doesn't live up to its promises

    Like, if you go to Dem stronghold states in NY and MN and MA and CA, what you'll get isn't this well funded highly technocratic compassionate liberal meritocracy. It's Eric Adams shilling Bitcoin and Dianne Feinstein drooling her way through SCOTUS appointments. You can't go into the district of Lori Lightfoot or Henry Cuellar or Bob Menendez and complain that people aren't sufficiently enthusiastic in their support for Team D. Not when you've got the national party propping these crooks and assholes up.

    Similarly, when you're living in a county that's got a big "No N- Allowed" above the voting booth and the Obama/Biden DOJ just looks the other way... What do you feel like you're voting for in this instance?

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago

    Billionaires have all the money in the world to buy all the propaganda they need to manipulate all the poorly educated people they can to get the politicians they want elected to rule the country as they wish.

    Don't gloat too much though, they are coming for you as well. AFD, Reform UK, RN, Sweden Democrats, all the same thing.

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  • [–] 22 points 1 year ago (19 children)

    Yes there are normal people in America. I don't have time to explain gerrymandering and all the other fuckery Republicans use to get elected. And I know this question isn't real because I trust you're not so bigoted as to judge an entire people of a country as one

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    I do not condemn the whole country, nation, religion, race, ... football fans, ... whatever, based on some small (or large) group of people from that community.

    FYI, I live in a country that is problematic, a lot of corruption, untouchable and dishonest politicians, slow changes in society, divisions of all kinds, mostly on national, religious and political grounds. In every country there are normal people and those who have some kind of problem in their heads and the ability to project that problem, transfer it to others.

    Somehow the USA was a "beacon" of democracy, where only during elections it matters who you vote for. It turns out that the USA is a shithole country like the others, only it has a much better economy (for some) and better propaganda.

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  • [–] -1 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    Calling it a shit hole country is condemnation. I see I was wrong.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    I am sorry that you didn't understand me that "I don't judge an entire people of a country as one".

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  • [–] -3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    I'm sorry that you demonstrated that your claim is untrue.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago* (12 children)

    Also there are tons of Americans with no desire to think

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    Didn't you know? Everyone in Europe is perfect and everyone in the US is a bumbling MAGA idiot? That's the impression I get from a lot of Lemmy threads, anyway.

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  • [–] -2 points 1 year ago* (1 child)

    We have a military force that escalates that we call police. They have tanks and qualified immunity. If you don't see the cop problem in yankkkee land then you are the problem. What are 80 years old corn pop? Watch "hotr- the bad apple report" or "the junkyard news" on the youtube ....Educated your damn self... These oinkers are rogue and it is every god damn day with these Karen magga reprobates.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)

    Currently yes and it blows my mind how often the wealthy people around me don't see what is going on around them or what the cause is (wealth inequality).

    edit: boows to blows

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Bruh some of the knuckle dragger bumpkin maggot tyrants are pulling in 200k...we are a peak corruption... Next is the death camps

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    I doubt what you're noticing is very specific to America. Every country is in danger of falling to this.

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  • We are all in danger of becoming fascist provided we are in a capitalist economy.

    America has made concerted efforts to ignore the best practices in education policy for about 20-25 years now. It is stunning how many people lack critical thinking skills.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago

    My casual observation living in the US is that a sufficient percentage of the population is cursed. In a first past the post system %50.1 are enough. The appeal of racism and violence in US-society predates its independence, the indigenous peoples and the enslaved know it too well.

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