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[–] 15 points 2 months ago (9 children)

Of course it's great that she's taken the effort to take a stand for something she believes in, while most people are just moaning about it on line, but while the style of delivery is shareable it's not really how one communicates with the public or with public officials.

The only people who will think this is a "good speech" are the people who already believe what she does, when she's really trying to reach everyone else.

For that reason the snarky witty basis isn't really helpful. She also needs to reduce her pace by about two thirds.

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  • [–] 33 points 2 months ago (3 children)

    The fact that the council won't likely be swayed by her alone isn't her problem. Her wit and the virality can bring other pressure beyond her own delivery.

    And the pacing is likely attributable to the fact that public commentary is limited to a time constraint in these meetings. She had a lot to say and not a lot of time to say it in.

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  • [–] -1 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    That's true, there's usually a time limit for statements from the public.

    However, when you're making a statement your primary objective is for your points to be received by your audience. Talking faster does not support that objective.

    I don't agree that witty snarky is the right way to get virality or traction, it's too easy for the minds you're trying to reach to disregard. Greta Thunberg demonstrated what a young female orator stating the obvious can achieve.

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  • [–] 5 points 2 months ago

    I don't agree that there's only a single prescribed method that everyone should attempt to emulate. This method was incisive and memorable. It drove the point home very effectively. She brought real world examples instead of just hypothetical fears. Her sarcastic delivery implied that the council's position was gleefully evil and comfortable with authoritarian abuses, which should give them pause and make them consider at least how they're being perceived, much less what their actual motivations are. And she offered real world consequences by mentioning their reelection. Greta can do it her way. This woman should continue being herself.

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  • [–] 3 points 2 months ago

    Greta Thunberg demonstrated what a young female orator stating the obvious can achieve.

    She achieved some virtue signaling responses that didn't actually improve the issue from the side that was already pro and being called a sock puppet from the side that was con.

    What Greta has achieved in modern times with her actions, not with speeches, is way more powerful.

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  • [–] 19 points 2 months ago (4 children)

    The speech wasn't for the officials, it was for the voters, young ones specifically. That's why she mentions re-election at the end.

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  • [–] -4 points 2 months ago (3 children)

    Everything I said applies to voters just the same. This type of thing only speaks to the people who already agree. Anyone who is ambivalent isn't going to be motivated by witty snarky whiny voice.

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  • [–] 3 points 2 months ago

    In my experience, this kind is speech is very effective for people who already agree with you in principle, but aren’t mad/motivated enough to take action on the issue. I agree is probably not the most effective at changing minds, but as a kind of rallying call it works.

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