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[–] 56 points 1 year ago (33 children)

What is the point of this meme? I feel like the only thing this can produce is people to not try to reform and improve the democratic party and take it over (like the tea party took over the republicans). Kind of like these "give up climate change it can't be stopped" posts that just benefits the big fossil fuels companies

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  • [–] 38 points 1 year ago (7 children)

    That's the point, I've noticed a lot of the loudest, most active posters on Lemmy ultimately want one thing, which is progressives not to vote. Weird how that's what the conservatives have relied on for every presidential victory they've achieved in the past half century or more.

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  • [–] [S] 10 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    Votes are earned not freely given. Your vote is your voice. Definitely vote at the local and state levels where your voice can be the loudest.

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  • [–] -2 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    And if you only want to give half a vote, give it to Trump and JD.

    (Because not voting is very similar to half a vote for the other guy.)

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  • [–] [S] -3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    (Because not voting is very similar to half a vote for the other guy.)

    Not voting wasn't a vote for Trump. Did not voting for Trump mean a vote for Harris?

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago

    Did not voting for Trump mean a vote for Harris?

    It would mean you wouldn't have minded a Harris victory. The comment even explicitly said "half a vote" to reflect this.

    This commentary is frequently also accompanied with blaming Harris voters for things that Trump is doing...

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago

    First off, it's four years, get your math right. Secondly, we only bomb browns, we just sell the bombs to anyone wanting to bomb whites. "Foreigner" and "non-foreigner" really have nothing to do with it. I think mainly we just feel really secluded over here and we don't want to be left out of all the cool Europe and Asia and Africa happenings, this is just the only way we can express ourselves.

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago* (4 children)

    What is the point of this meme?

    These memes communicate to Democrats and their supporters that we're sick and tired of their mask-off conservative rule when they promise us the world and do nothing once elected. You want praise? You want votes? Then do something.

    Since, you know, not voting for them apparently isn't enough to inspire meaningful change. Just once in my life I want to see Democrats fight harder for the working class and poor as they do against socialists and third parties.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago* (3 children)

    You want praise? You want votes? Then do something.

    Time for you to educate yourself. Look up Dem's economic stats compared to Republicans. Look up the Dem's voting history.

    They aren't doing EVERYTHING, but they do a lot more than the other viable option.

    If you want them to do more, then stop wasting your time doing what you're doing and start focusing on getting people to primary Dems who aren't doing what we want, because that's how you get Democrat party reform.

    This meme is utter trash and only serves to fracture liberals and prevent the reform I just described.

    Just once I want liberals to come together and primary bad Dems to send a message instead of fucking whining and not voting or voting 3rd party so fascists can take over.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago* (2 children)

    Just once I want liberals to come together and primary bad Dems

    They did.

    That bad candidate was Joe Biden.

    The Democratic Party just ignored it. Democratic primaries are a worthless exercise.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago

    That's exactly it. This is the meme and attitude of tankies that are chomping at the bit for violence and doing everything they can to help push the country to the Right. This is because of their faith-based belief that it will magically create class consciousness and a revolution to overthrow the global bourgeoisie. They don't give two shits about the LGBTQ+, POC, medically vulnerable, etc people that they have to sacrifice in the process.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    You are correct. The OP has an agenda and that agenda is to fracture liberals.

    The answer is not to give up. The answer is not to vote for a worthless 3rd party with zero chance of winning. The answer is to reform the Democrat party and history has shown us, repeatedly, that it is completely possible. And it literally just happened with the Republican party in the last 2 decades.

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  • [+] -17 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (17 children)
  • [–] 14 points 1 year ago* (16 children)

    China produces ~65% of global smartphones. At worst US companies simply re-brand products from overseas OEMs, at best they're using Chinese produced semiconductors and components to create original products.

    The rest of the consumer electronics market is pretty similar. If you believe modern China is communist then they are "doom-scrolling on their communist-produced smartphones" through a communist produced network infrastructure which you are, most likely, reading through a communist-produced screen.

    I would argue however that modern China largely split the difference between the USSR, which you are McCarthy-ing about, and the modern Russian Federation, which explicitly reformed into a liberal democracy with a capitalist market economy.

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    Let me simplify: iPhones are built and designed by, what you consider, Communists.

    Android is capitalism appropriating the largely anarchist project of Linux. Which if capitalists had their way would've been strangled in its cradle.

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    Aaaaand, you have no arguments to the contrary...

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  • [–] 0 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    We do love deflecting, don't we?

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  • [–] 0 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    What exactly is your point?

    If it's "you can't critique society because you exist in it" that's beyond stupid.

    If it's "smartphone are made in capitalist USA" that's occasionally true, but statistically completely divorced from reality.

    If it's something else you are doing a terrible job of communicating it.

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  • [–] 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    So in your worldview you can't wear cotton unless you are in full support of chattel slavery?

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