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[–] 293 points 2 months ago (14 children)

You forgot to mention reddit and spez basically took over and booted admins from subreddits to make them available again

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  • [–] 144 points 2 months ago (4 children)

    afaik that's been the policy ever since. If the mods don't fully comply with all instructions, they are removed, and then because it's modless they get to put in new ones. Basically lackeyism at digital scale.

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  • [–] 117 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    It needs to be understood that the culture before this happened was very different than it is now.

    The mods basically owned their subreddits. Mods could do anything they wanted. You could ban someone for the color of their socks. You had full control of the CSS coding and functionality of your subreddit, so you could make it look like dogshit for the laughs and ban anyone who typed the letter L. Some subreddits got popular just for being weird like this. Whatever you wanted to do, it didn't matter. If you didn't like how a subreddit was ran you just made your own. If you made a subreddit then that was the corner of your internet to do whatever you wanted with. That was the tradeoff. You got a space in return for creating it. You didn't even need to moderate it.

    After the mods got removed from their subreddits for protesting it became very clear that the subreddits were not theirs anymore. It was the first time reddit ever took actions against moderators for something that wasn't blatantly illegal.

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  • [–] 41 points 2 months ago

    Yep, when they started forcing subreddits to open after having gone dark, that was the final straw for me. It was clear reddit was saying "fuck you, we own the platform and you can't do shit about it."

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  • [–] 9 points 2 months ago (7 children)

    And 99% returned to posting, belly-up, like nothing happened.

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  • [–] 35 points 2 months ago (6 children)

    I noticed a significant shift in the conversation, I think a lot of people left

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  • [–] 24 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (5 children)

    Reddit has somewhere north of 100 million MAU. Lemmy has somewhere in the realm of 50k MAU, or 0.05% of Reddit. Even factoring in PieFed, etc., we're talking about a drop in the bucket for Reddit.

    A lot of people came to Lemmy, by Lemmy standards, but almost nobody left Reddit, by Reddit standards. The case can be made that our 0.05% are the the best 0.05% of Reddit, but it's still teeny tiny. 99.9% of users just bent over and shouted "Yes Spez!"

    Edit: this article includes active user estimates each quarter, and the numbers continually seem to be going up.

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  • [–] 26 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

    That article doesn't attempt to differentiate between human users and bots.

    Also, Reddit has gotten significantly more ban-happy since then, which is almost certainly creating a chilling effect on discussions there.

    It doesn't take a lot of that to cause a shift in conversations.

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  • [–] 4 points 2 months ago

    Active users that post and comment matter much more than the total number though. Lemmy of course is much smaller, but it certainly has attracted a decent portion of reddit's "active" users

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  • [–] 2 points 2 months ago*

    Yeah, it was a palace coup as he had Schwartz indirectly eliminated.

    What happened was a reminder that anyone calling themselves Redditors are literally serfs walking on spez private property and the bastard therefore can eject anyone.

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