you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] 9 points 1 year ago (12 children)

"let's just do some more colonialism! it will be fine"

  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 12 child comments
  • [+] -8 points 1 year ago (11 children)

    You mean colonize Hawaii, a US state? How in the fuck do you even think this?

  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 11 child comments
  • [–] 11 points 1 year ago (10 children)

    the indigenous people have been heavily colonized. being a us state does not preclude you from some rich fuck showing up and ruining the ecosystem you maintain

  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 10 child comments
  • [+] -7 points 1 year ago (9 children)

    Are they Americans or not? I know that's a loaded question but we have to dump space trash somewhere if we are going to continue launching. We're not allowed to dump the trash in international waters AFAIK so we have to pick somewhere in our borders.

    Gulf of Mexico or The Pacific. Pick one.

  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 9 child comments
  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    you already dismissed this in another thread, but seriously, we don't need spacex poluting our oceans and orbits like this. just because nasa isn't doing launches isn't reason to give a corporation carte blanche to do whatever in the name of "progress" while stymying real science. we could do, as a planet, with fewer launches than are being done and taking a longer view of science and research than quarterly profits.

  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 6 child comments
  • [–] 0 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    WTF. I want NASA back, I hate SpaceX. They suck. So what do we do?

  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 5 child comments
  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    start getting critical. have conversations with our neighbors to shift what's possible. organize ourselves in the streets because the streets is where we win. refuse to accept that this is just the way things must be

  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 4 child comments
  • [–] -2 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    cool story bro. I'm getting old and I'm very tired.

  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 3 child comments
  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    same here all around. but if my octogenerian neighbors can take the time to demand that my great grand children i'll never meet have a planet worth living on, then i can do the same for the next generations, too. it doesn't have to be an all consuming fight, it's a marathon not a sprint, afterall. but that marathon starts with setting a goal, and one of those goals should be a planet where a long term view of resource management is taken. just accepting "it has to be somewhere" ignores the truth that it doesn't need to be at all. that people's ancestral lands matter. that clean oceans and ecosystems matter. destroying something in the name of progress isn't progress.

    it doesn't have to be much. it starts with saying your local community should be cleaner, and that it shouldn't just dump its waste in another community. we all live together, ultimately.

  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 2 child comments
  • [–] 0 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Which community though? Are we not all Americans?

  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 1 child comment
  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago

    we both are. but you have to think global and act local. our power is in our ability to convince the people around us that there's something wrong with the way things are and something to be done about it. so it starts with county politics, state politics, national politics, and then global. movements take years and they always start with shifting what's possible

  • source
  • parent