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  • [–] 12 points 2 months ago (17 children)

    That's patriarchy, not Islam. Inform yourself about christianity and you'll find much the same. It's just a different flavour of misogyny. In medieval times, arabic/islamic countries were the educated centers of culture and christian Europe was the barbaric part of the world. Now the scale looks tipped the other way. All the while, evangelical misogynists kill women by denying them life-saving treatments when they are suspected to be pregnant.

    All religions are fucked up. If any of them was truly about belief, and not controlling people (and especially women's bodies), there'd be zero need for an institutionalized belief system.

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    yeah, right now Christians, especially in the USA, opress women. row v wade was overturned as one of veeeeery many examples, they're hell bend on stripping rights and bodily autonomy from women. for most Christian idioligist in politics women are reduced to breeding machines, totally dehumanizing them. so, what's the track record of Muslims in american politics? or are you just scared?

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago (11 children)

    no, wasn't me, I have faaaaar better things to do. also, what would even be worse then a religious extremist group controlling multiple states and influencing the president to opress non believers? Muslims have the potential to do similar things, but Christians are right now doing it. which is worse do you think? maybe you are just scared of things you dont know

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago (10 children)

    Muslims have the potential to do similar things

    I think they fully revealed their potential in, for example, ISIS and Afghanistan.

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  • [–] 0 points 2 months ago (7 children)

    yes. and that is different from Muslim. evangelists are not just Christians, they're extremists. As are islamists. it's an easy concept.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago (5 children)

    if thats what you believe ... its more the core of moral values and it gets exploited.

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  • [–] 0 points 2 months ago (4 children)

    Wouldn't that be great to uproot one of the sources of such rot?

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago (3 children)

    yeah sure and take every sort of extremism with it. sounds easy, but it's not.

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  • [–] 0 points 2 months ago* (2 children)

    First step is to consider religiousness of a politician a negative factor.
    Especially if said religion is a steady source of extremists.

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  • [–] 9 points 2 months ago (10 children)

    right, Christianity totally doesnt have these problems :D they not only also opress women, they also diddle little kids.

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  • [–] 3 points 2 months ago (9 children)

    Do you think I would defend Christianity? I'm not a fan of it by far.

    they also diddle little kids

    In Islam the very prophet of it had a wife of 6 at marriage and 9 when the marriage was consummated.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 months ago (8 children)

    you didn't defend Christianity. but you're still attacking a fundamental religious group which has nothing to do with the candidate. why would you do that, when it gives the impression of conflating Muslim believe and Islamism?

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  • [–] 0 points 2 months ago (7 children)

    Because religion is a cancer.
    Religious people tend to extend their restrictions to non-believers.

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  • [–] 0 points 2 months ago (6 children)

    and your solution is to restrict peopled believes? same thing bud.

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  • [–] 0 points 2 months ago (5 children)

    To restrict religious beliefs.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago (4 children)

    so to restrict because of your believe system.

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    it's not a paradox to not mix two distinct religious groups with very different attitudes together. would you like to also say, that every christian is an evangelist?

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  • [–] 4 points 2 months ago (7 children)

    I don't see anything about Islam or women in El-Sayed's platform though, so that's irrelevant.

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  • [–] 4 points 2 months ago (3 children)

    Again, this only becomes relevant to policy if El-Sayed has said he plans to vote according to this or that Islamic ruling. To my knowledge he's said no such thing.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    I don't think we can separate a politician from their beliefs and preferences. Even if said politician isn't mentioning it in the agenda.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago (17 children)

    there's nothing in Islamic scripture that says "thou shalt oppress women". there may be cultural oppression but that goes for many societies irrespective of their religion.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (16 children)

    "no true Scotsman..."

    there may be cultural oppression

    Religion is a cultural phenomenon.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago* (15 children)

    Nice changing the goalposts.

    You said Islam oppresses women.

    If your point is the cultural oppression of women why didn't you open with that rather than rely on lazy stereotypes about Muslims?

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  • [–] 2 points 2 months ago* (14 children)

    My point is the same: Islam oppresses women.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago (12 children)

    It doesn't though, some Muslims do. Just like some Christians do. You got mad when someone else used a No True Scotsman argument, but "Islam oppresses women" implicitly uses the exact same argument. "Islam oppresses women, therefore any "Muslim" that doesn't, isn't practicing real Islam."

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago (11 children)

    It doesn't though, some Muslims do.

    I think they got the idea from islam.
    What do you think?

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago (10 children)

    You think they got sexism from a book??

    I think they got it from their stupid lizard brains just like all the Christian misogynists and secular misogynists and Jewish misogynists and Hindu misogynists and Buddhist misogynists, etc, etc. I think this all started a long time before we had the capacity for complex language or self-realization. Your line of thinking can only lead to more prejudice and hate in the world, you should abandon it.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago* (9 children)

    It seems, authors of islam had stupid lizard brains too. And transmitted their stupid lizardness via their religious teaching.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago (8 children)

    Yeah, that's what I just said. "Islam" has nothing to do with it, it's just a different color window dressing for prehistoric misogyny. The difference between something like Islam and something like fascism is that millions and millions and millions of Muslims are very good people who treat everyone with respect. So the paradox of tolerance doesn't apply, because being Muslim doesn't inherently mean being intolerant.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago* (7 children)

    millions and millions and millions of Muslims are very good people who treat everyone with respect.

    Especially in ISIS, Afghanistan, Iran and UAE, for starters.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago (6 children)

    You're talking about Islamists, not Muslims. I guarantee there are millions of good people that call themselves Muslims in those countries. That's how humanity works, most people are actually pretty decent.

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    So you agree you're a bigot! Great! Now stop it.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago (3 children)

    Don't use children's rhetoric, please.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago (2 children)

    Just trying to get on your intellectual level. If you don't like it, stop behaving so childishly.

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