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U.S. preparing to force Netherlands to ban ASML from selling to China (nltimes.nl)
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[–] -2 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Why do you want them to sell to China so desperately? It has done nothing but irreversible damage to countries to sell key industries to China. Look at Germany‘s history of solar power and industry robots that China bought and now mass produces instead. Germany could‘ve been a key player in this if the industry and politics played their cards right.

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  • [–] 3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

    I don't know what propaganda you are watching? Is it Fox News?
    China is fucking 1.4 Billion people, they have invested heavily in infrastructure, education and research for 50 years, while we in Europe and USA have invested only about a third in those areas.
    Of course they are catching up. Just like Japan did, Just like South Korea did. AND just like USA did stealing technology from Europe.
    China is now among the world leaders in 8 out of 10 key industries. And very obviously, China is working on their own technology to replace ASML even harder now than they did a few years ago, exactly because USA has demanded we sanction the technology to slow them down on AI.
    Well guess what. USA will lose the AI race to China so badly, that most probably ALL the big American AI companies will probably go bankrupt. Because they are driven by a gold rush craze, investing way more than the economy can justify. While in China they are pragmatically working towards using cheaper AI solutions to solve actual practical problems.

    I want to trade with China because they are a WAY WAY more reliable trading partner than USA is.

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  • [–] 0 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    Well I know what kind of propaganda a tanky like you is gobbling up if you paint an inhumane, totalitarian regime that knows no human rights like some kind of intellectual utopia. If they manage to „develop their own“ anyway we both know it will be done with industrial espionage and not innovation.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 months ago

    I am very far from being a tankie, I'm a strong supporter of democracy.
    You must be very poorly informed to make that post, have you seen any travel descriptions to China lately?
    I never claimed it's a Utopia, but the fact is that China has invested way way more in education infrastructure and research than the west for decades.
    To claim China does not have innovation is decidedly moronic. China is now registering more patents than USA, and is the new global leader.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Intellectual_Property_Indicators

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