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[+] -75 points 1 year ago (51 children)

This is largely US propaganda. Buying into the China bad bullshit is US government funded propaganda. I believe it was just last year congress set aside around $1.5 billion for anti-China campaigns. The US government has never been the good guy, and it’s a little wild to me when liberals buy into the trash. It probably shouldn’t. US liberals are generally capitalism loving right wingers.

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  • [–] 30 points 1 year ago (17 children)

    Bad Empanada has an hour long video going over this topic. There's definitely some western propaganda in circulation but there's even more Chinese propaganda trying to hide the truth.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (14 children)

    why ya linking bad empanada? He's fuckin crazy

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (13 children)

    Because despite who he is as a person his video essays are quality content.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (12 children)

    He's called for innocent people to be killed

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  • [–] 0 points 1 year ago (11 children)

    So nuance just goes right over your head? Fair enough.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (10 children)

    What nuance is there for wanting innocent civilians dead?

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  • [–] 0 points 1 year ago (9 children)

    Exactly, no nuance with you. The nuance here is with what he has said. The nuance here is that him saying something we don't agree with doesn't mean his video is somehow bad.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (8 children)

    You can't separate the art from the artist when the artist is a political commentator, which he is, and he has said some very hateful and extremist things.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (7 children)

    You can't agree with every opinion a political commentator has, so according to you no political commentator should be listened to.

    How about this. You tell me who I should listen to you and I'll tell you how you're wrong.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (6 children)

    It's a bit of a strange position to take. You can read some of his bigotry here: 1 2

    Like he's an anti-semitic nutter who regularly denies atrocities and genocides, he promotes racism, he calls for nations to be nuked, he harasses rape victims, he doxxes teenagers and also rape victims. If you want to argue that an extremist bigot can make points that an everyman can agree with, then surely you have to do the same for the other extremists, such as Alex Jones, Nick Fuentes and Cadence Owens? It's only fair afterall.

    Or is it because you find yourself agreeing with him?

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (5 children)

    No, I don't agree with everything Bad Empanada says. I disagree with his extremist takes. But unlike you just because I don't like some of the things he says or does I don't instantly think he is wrong in everything he says. When it comes to the Uyghur "vocational camps" I think he has a valid take, that China is essentially doing a genocide and they're doing a pretty poor job at covering it up.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (4 children)
  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago* (3 children)

    For the love of god get over yourself and what the entirety of the video already. You're linking an article about the same thing Bad Empanada talks about, except he goes more in depth with actual sources to back up what he's talking about (which the BBC article doesn't do).

    Me, you and Bad Empanada are all in agreement on what is happening in Xinjiang but because you don't like Bad Empanada and you probably also don't like me (because I dared to link Bad Empanada) you seem to think we're in disagreement. We're not. Don't do a Destiny and decide what (or who) is right or wrong based on how you feel about things.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (2 children)

    I don't know you.

    But I would like to know more about what nuance is used for using a nuke to blow up a country.

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  • [–] 26 points 1 year ago (8 children)

    What's your opinion on why Russia invaded Ukraine?

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago (7 children)

    Russia is a fascist state. Since the USSR fell it’s been run by the rich, just like the US.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    And what's your opinion on the USSR?

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  • [–] -1 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    An incredible success. If the capitalists see you as a threat, you’re doing something right.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    Really? I wouldn't call it a success, seeing how it collapsed. Also it was horribly authoritarian. I don't think you and I are ever going to get along.

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  • [–] -1 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    From illiterate to space bound in 50 years. It was absolutely a success. I’m guessing you don’t really know much about the USSR. You were force fed the idea that socialism is bad in school and it stuck, like most poorly educated Americans. The truth is socialism produces results very quickly. The people working for the people, rather than some shitty corporation. The USSR went from around 10% of the population being literate to 80% within 10 years. It was an incredible success. There’s plenty of information out there regarding the CIA basically just making shit up. The usual US propaganda that we now see with any country that shows socialist values today, such as China. We wouldn’t want the working class rising up.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago* (2 children)

    I think socialism is good actually. If you think that's what the USSR was doing you drank the Kool aid.

    Edit: also: I'm not an American, good job making assumptions about me.

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  • [–] 15 points 1 year ago* (11 children)

    Yikes

    Got any actual proof? Or are you just repeating CCP propaganda?

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  • [–] -3 points 1 year ago (10 children)
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    This bill authorizes activities to counter the malign influence of the Chinese Communist Party (CCP) and China's government.

    For the purposes of this bill, malign influence includes acts to (1) advance an alternative and repressive international order that bolsters the CCP and China's hegemonic ambitions; or (2) undermine the national security, economic security, or sovereignty of the United States or other countries.

    So it says it was passed to counter act Chinese propaganda.

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  • [–] -4 points 1 year ago (8 children)

    Yeeeeep. I’m sure that’s what it’s being used for. You’re not familiar with the US history of meddling with elections and going to war in the name of capitalism? Vietnam ring a bell? Congo? Venezuela? Korea? I’m not sure why anyone would believe anything coming out of this country. Well, truthfully most don’t. Just the ignorant citizens.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago (7 children)

    Im well aware

    Are you aware Donald Trump is a Russian asset?

    Are you aware China and Russia are allies focused on removing the US so they can control the world instead?

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    Meanwhile sane people don't want a boot on the neck of humanity.

    It doesn't matter what fascist dictatorship controls the boot, the existence of the boot is the problem.

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  • [–] -4 points 1 year ago* (4 children)

    A government consisting of the people is a boot on the neck how? We’re certainly not represented in this “democracy.”

    China not being Russia’s enemy is somehow worse than the US supporting Israel? Last I heard China wasn’t supplying weapons in the proxy war.

    The last war China was even part of was back in the late 70’s. The US has been part of like 10 wars in the open, and countless covert ops since then. I think it’s time the libturds opened their eyes and turned off the billionaire-owned media. The China-bad bullshit is gross and often racist.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago* (3 children)

    So when does "the people" in China get to elect a new dictator?

    Also China supplying proxy wars does count them being at war.

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  • [–] -3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Supplying what? Weapons were off limits. The US can’t say the same.

    I believe the next election is in 3 years. It’s a large government. There’s no dictator. With a very high approval rating, per US sources.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    You don't seem to understand Xi isn't going to ever leave office...

    I can't have a conversation with you if you can't live in reality

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  • [–] 50 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    "Social credit", the bullshit about Taiwan being "native territory", trying to bully their way into territory expansion and their support of Russia kinda sets a specific tone, doesn't it?

    Fuck that Chinese dictatorship and all the fucking Internet shills that can't help but suck CCP dick.

    It's super easy to get to the bottom of propaganda articles without knobbers like you starting shit wherever they can.

    This ain't about "US good" or "China bad". I am just calling out that dumbfucks like you are 90% of the problem with how people from different countries perceive each other. Did you really aim to convince anyone of your beliefs? I don't think so.

    Go back to .ml where you belong.

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  • [+] -25 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    China has a democratically elected government. Your liberal talking points make you sound like a sheep.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago* (1 child)

    Welp, since we have gone down that path, I think this liberal talking point is hysterical: https://youtu.be/K9AF6OtHtYs

    (The above even includes a hair of excessive drama that is even a bit much for me.)

    I await your wall of URLs of counter points, hopefully mixed with some deflection and tie-ins to political affiliation. According to your brethren on ml, the issues with these cities were resolved two years ago...

    Also, did you notice which community you are in?

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  • [+] -11 points 1 year ago

    Heh. This isn’t really doing much for me. The giant argument against China is they built too much housing? I generally avoid these discussions as there’s no way to cut through all the shit that’s been thrown at the wall. The liberals will keep rooting for their shitty oppressive system while the minority that sees through it hopes for something better for the next generation. I commented right before sleeping, whoops! The government has an insanely high approval rating, according to Harvard, but I have busy day ahead of me and regret commenting in a community that basically does nothing but bitch about socialists. Hope your day is swell.

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago*

    Hot take: They, and a few more are all massively bad at their political core. They all have good, suppressed citizens at the bottom.

    All the global superpowers commit warcrimes against humanity. It does not matter who is the comparative worst.

    Smaller billionaires don’t become ethical in the shadow of bigger billionaires

    Every single global crime against life should be known and talked about.

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  • [–] 19 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Do you value diversity, equity, and inclusion? Do you like having the ability to freely talk about ideas which might challenge The Party? Do you enjoy free and fair elections?

    If your answer to those questions is "no" then your value system is quite at odds with the average Western Liberal. Liberals love liberalism. China doesn't like liberalism. It's pretty obvious why there's friction between them, no propaganda required.

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  • [+] -6 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Of all the shitty responses, this one is the best. You’re wildly naive. You buy into the political theatre. Good stuff. Liberalism doesn’t give a shit about your DEI. There’s no such thing as ethical capitalism. China has a long way to go, but it’s improving the quality of life of its citizens by moving towards socialism. What’s the US doing? War crimes, meddling with elections, bending over for billionaires. Sounds nice! Liberalism has never, and will never be for the working class.

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