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Fairphone Is Finally Selling Its Repairable Phone in the US (www.wired.com)
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[–] 3 points 2 months ago (15 children)

Do wired usb-c headphones not exist? Don't get me wrong, I hate that everyone has dropped the jack and buds can fuck right off, but they're just advertising those buds as an adjacent product, they're not locking anyone in.

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  • [–] 6 points 2 months ago (12 children)

    The big problem for me is that there is only one port, so you can ether listen to something, or, charge the phone, not both. Just having two ports would solve this.

    Also, not something I really care about but a lot of people do, the headphone jack is an analog output, where as the USB-C is a digital output, and you need an analog signal to run a speaker. So they need to have their own DACs (Digital-Analog converter), and many of the USB-C headphones have poor quality DACs that loose detail. Used to be the DAC was just in the phone, and was generally of good quality.

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  • [–] 0 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (11 children)

    Do you have evidence for the Apple USB-C DAC, that is about 10€, losing details over commonly built-in DAC with in ear monitors? That is not my experience nor have I found any reviews reporring that.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 months ago (10 children)

    Depending on the headphone you want to use, that dongle is insufficient. My kiwi ears astrals sound worse with it and the koss ksc75 are rather quiet. This is with the EU version of the dongle, which has half the power of the US version.

    It's also another damn thing you need to carry around and that can break. There's no reason not to include a headphone jack. Stop defending greedy design decisions that actively screw you over, it makes you look quite dumb.

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  • [–] 0 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (9 children)

    I have yet see the need to use iems with excessive power requirements where they end up "rather quiet", my Kiwi dongle DAC can blow my ears out if I were to long for it. If you do have a need for that, just upgrade the DAC to your extraordinarily high power reqirements. Lighter sized DACs pack a much stronger punch and can facilitate your early deafness if that is your preference. USB-C gives you that flexibility. All of those solutions are perfectly portable, you also don't need to carry a separate part, just keep it connected.

    I am not defending a"greedy decision", the only downside for most people is a bit more wear on the USB-C port and that is a minor issue given how reasonably priced the replacement part is and how easy it is to install.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 months ago (8 children)

    The ksc75 is not an IEM. You're also mentioning a completely different (and more expensive) dongle than the one in the comment I reolied to.

    And no, more wear on the usb-c port is not the only downside. In some places (e.g. where I live), you simply can't buy most dongles. I always have to travel or import stuff. You also have one more thing that you need to buy, carry around and that can break.

    Stop being a corpo simp. Makes you look dumb.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago (7 children)

    The kiwi dongle is pretty much the same price as the apple dongle, about 10 EUR. More powerful DACs in the lighter format are more expensive but they are also more powerful than what you'd usually find in a phone with headphone jack.

    Yes, the ksc75 is not an IEM, I had to look it up. I was only talking about IEMs before.

    In the age of the internet buying DACs is a non issue.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago (6 children)

    Where I am right now it costs 23EUR which isn't that much less than the cost of the ksc75. I don't think that making a dongle requirement is ok. Specially when there's literally nothing stopping manufacturers from including it.

    In the age of the internet buying DACs is a non issue

    You clearly don't know much about the customs processes and restrictions in other countries then.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago* (5 children)

    I don't know where you are but in the EU 23 EUR for the AD1 is a ridiculous price. Even Amazon.de (that ships most of its stuff across the EU) charges not more than 18 EUR something and that already includes shipping.

    The Linsoul store sells them for 8.09 EUR netto. For orders above 17 EUR without shipping fee. What you pay depends on how it is handled (assuming you are im the EU). Worst case is 10 EUR incl. VAT + 3 EUR small purchase tariff, the latter is less than shipping within the EU. So yes, the AD1 us absolutely in a comparable price league as the Apple dongle.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago (4 children)

    K dude, have fun being a corpo simp I guess.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago* (3 children)

    Ok, so no argument left and going straight to ad hominem.

    I don't even own a Fairphone, nor any iOS, Android or Android based phone. But I guess I am a corpo simp because I am fine with the jack and DAC real estate being rather used by a bigger battery.

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  • [–] 0 points 2 months ago* (2 children)

    My argument is very simple and you're too thick to get it. Having more options is alway better, having a 3.5mm jack has literally no downsides. There's no excuse to defend its exclusion. If you can't understand that, then I have nothing else to say. If you like to get fucked over, you do you man.

    The battery increase goes from negligible to null. There's even a video from the StrangeParts channel where the guy adds the headphone jack to an iphone without having to remove anything at all. You drank the kool-aid my friend.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago (1 child)

    I don't know why you have to resort to ad hominem.

    I already pointed out a downside of a headphobe jack. It needs soace, as a fairly large socket, also the DAC reqires space, even though less so. Now it is entirely reasonable to think that it is totally worth that and I do support having that choice but I personally have no need for it, I prefer using that space for a larger battery.

    You consider the battery increase insignificant but even if it is just 1%, it makes more sense to me tgan having a feature I don't need.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago

    It's not fairly large and the hypothetical battery capacity inpact is negligible, if it even exists at all. I have a Sony Xperia 5V that has both a headphone jack and a micro sd card, while also having a (at the moment) top of the line processor, 5000mah of battery and being smaller than most (if not all) flagships. So yeah, I have to "resort to ad hominem" because it's the only explanation for you to choose to die on this very small hill where you're choosing to get screwed over.

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