▲ 961 ▼ Fairphone Is Finally Selling Its Repairable Phone in the US (www.wired.com) submitted 2 months ago by floofloof@lemmy.ca to c/technology@lemmy.world 228 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech 7 points 2 months ago (18 children) Graphene is only on pixels, why not their /e/os? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 18 child comments replies: [–] Chulk@lemmy.ml 39 points 2 months ago (7 children) Graphene is only on pixels Only because Pixels have met their hardware requirements. They are going to start working with Motorola now. why not their /e/os? From what I understand, the two OS are not aiming for the same objectives. /e/os is a degoogled OS and that's its main purpose. GrapheneOS is focused on hardening security on AOSP. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] snowdriftissue@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago (6 children) /e/ os is not degoogled. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Chulk@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 months ago (5 children) On some technical level you may be correct, but their site claims that /e/os is degoogled. https://e.foundation/e-os/ /e/OS is a “deGoogled” version of Android OS. It has an open-source Android OS core, with no Google apps or Google services accessing your personal data. Google default search engine has been removed from the OS everywhere and replaced with our new ethical search engine: Murena Find Google Services have been replaced by microG Connectivity checks do not use Google servers We do not use Google’s Network Time Protocol servers We do not use Google’s Domain Name System servers Geolocation uses BeaconDB Location Services in addition to GPS So I would love to know more about what you're talking about. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] Tehdastehdas@piefed.social 2 points 2 months ago This comparison chart shows which parts of /e/OS are not deGoogled: https://eylenburg.github.io/android_comparison.htm permalink fedilink source parent [–] snowdriftissue@lemmy.world 1 point 2 months ago (3 children) their site claims Yes, they lie. GrapheneOS is the only fully degoogled android based OS, full stop. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Chulk@lemmy.ml 1 point 2 months ago (2 children) Yes, they lie. GrapheneOS is the only fully degoogled android based OS, full stop. What are they lying about? What part of their OS is not degoogled? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] snowdriftissue@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago (1 child) https://lemmy.world/comment/25381318 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Chulk@lemmy.ml 1 point 2 months ago Awesome thanks for the link permalink fedilink source parent [–] TheMightyCat@ani.social 9 points 2 months ago (9 children) Why not posmarketOS? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 9 child comments replies: [–] lmuel@sopuli.xyz 13 points 2 months ago (3 children) I love Linux as much as the next guy but I've got PostmarketOS as well as Ubuntu touch running on a Fairphone 4 and the experience is far from polished, postmarket doesn't even do VoLTE. Not saying it sucks - I love it. But it's not for everyone and unlikely to replace android for most use cases at the moment unfortunately. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] TheMightyCat@ani.social 16 points 2 months ago* (2 children) postmarket doesn’t even do VoLTE. Well do i have good news for you! https://ani.social/post/34656971 https://ani.social/post/35759149 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] rumba@lemmy.zip 6 points 2 months ago they got the camera kinda working on the 6+ yesterday too https://catcrafts.net/posts/fairphone-6-postmarketos-working-main-camera permalink fedilink source parent [–] lmuel@sopuli.xyz 3 points 2 months ago Yeah I think it just doesn’t work on the FP4 yet. At least I haven’t managed to get it working. On Ubuntu touch it also took years (although that community is also very… special) permalink fedilink source parent [–] rumba@lemmy.zip 9 points 2 months ago I want postmarket so bad. They did actually get a camera working for fairphone 6+, yesterday, kinda, mostly https://catcrafts.net/posts/fairphone-6-postmarketos-working-main-camera I need an ok camera, ok video, gps, volte, sms, and ~18 hours of battery life with maybe 6-8 of it active. permalink fedilink source parent [–] fluffykittycat@slrpnk.net 3 points 2 months ago All of the above, preferably permalink fedilink source parent [–] shortwavesurfer@lemmy.zip 1 point 2 months ago (2 children) That's definitely possible, although it will take some work, because the processor is different from the Fairphone 6, which is currently running post-market OS already. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheMightyCat@ani.social 3 points 2 months ago (1 child) It won't take any work, Luca has confirmed the image works on both Fairphone 6 and Fairphone 6+ https://wiki.postmarketos.org/wiki/Fairphone_(Gen._6)_(fairphone-fp6) its on the wiki now too permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] shortwavesurfer@lemmy.zip 3 points 2 months ago Oh sweet, thanks permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Chulk@lemmy.ml 39 points 2 months ago (7 children) Graphene is only on pixels Only because Pixels have met their hardware requirements. They are going to start working with Motorola now. why not their /e/os? From what I understand, the two OS are not aiming for the same objectives. /e/os is a degoogled OS and that's its main purpose. GrapheneOS is focused on hardening security on AOSP. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] snowdriftissue@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago (6 children) /e/ os is not degoogled. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Chulk@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 months ago (5 children) On some technical level you may be correct, but their site claims that /e/os is degoogled. https://e.foundation/e-os/ /e/OS is a “deGoogled” version of Android OS. It has an open-source Android OS core, with no Google apps or Google services accessing your personal data. Google default search engine has been removed from the OS everywhere and replaced with our new ethical search engine: Murena Find Google Services have been replaced by microG Connectivity checks do not use Google servers We do not use Google’s Network Time Protocol servers We do not use Google’s Domain Name System servers Geolocation uses BeaconDB Location Services in addition to GPS So I would love to know more about what you're talking about. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] Tehdastehdas@piefed.social 2 points 2 months ago This comparison chart shows which parts of /e/OS are not deGoogled: https://eylenburg.github.io/android_comparison.htm permalink fedilink source parent [–] snowdriftissue@lemmy.world 1 point 2 months ago (3 children) their site claims Yes, they lie. GrapheneOS is the only fully degoogled android based OS, full stop. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Chulk@lemmy.ml 1 point 2 months ago (2 children) Yes, they lie. GrapheneOS is the only fully degoogled android based OS, full stop. What are they lying about? What part of their OS is not degoogled? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] snowdriftissue@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago (1 child) https://lemmy.world/comment/25381318 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Chulk@lemmy.ml 1 point 2 months ago Awesome thanks for the link permalink fedilink source parent
[–] snowdriftissue@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago (6 children) /e/ os is not degoogled. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Chulk@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 months ago (5 children) On some technical level you may be correct, but their site claims that /e/os is degoogled. https://e.foundation/e-os/ /e/OS is a “deGoogled” version of Android OS. It has an open-source Android OS core, with no Google apps or Google services accessing your personal data. Google default search engine has been removed from the OS everywhere and replaced with our new ethical search engine: Murena Find Google Services have been replaced by microG Connectivity checks do not use Google servers We do not use Google’s Network Time Protocol servers We do not use Google’s Domain Name System servers Geolocation uses BeaconDB Location Services in addition to GPS So I would love to know more about what you're talking about. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] Tehdastehdas@piefed.social 2 points 2 months ago This comparison chart shows which parts of /e/OS are not deGoogled: https://eylenburg.github.io/android_comparison.htm permalink fedilink source parent [–] snowdriftissue@lemmy.world 1 point 2 months ago (3 children) their site claims Yes, they lie. GrapheneOS is the only fully degoogled android based OS, full stop. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Chulk@lemmy.ml 1 point 2 months ago (2 children) Yes, they lie. GrapheneOS is the only fully degoogled android based OS, full stop. What are they lying about? What part of their OS is not degoogled? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] snowdriftissue@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago (1 child) https://lemmy.world/comment/25381318 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Chulk@lemmy.ml 1 point 2 months ago Awesome thanks for the link permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Chulk@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 months ago (5 children) On some technical level you may be correct, but their site claims that /e/os is degoogled. https://e.foundation/e-os/ /e/OS is a “deGoogled” version of Android OS. It has an open-source Android OS core, with no Google apps or Google services accessing your personal data. Google default search engine has been removed from the OS everywhere and replaced with our new ethical search engine: Murena Find Google Services have been replaced by microG Connectivity checks do not use Google servers We do not use Google’s Network Time Protocol servers We do not use Google’s Domain Name System servers Geolocation uses BeaconDB Location Services in addition to GPS So I would love to know more about what you're talking about. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] Tehdastehdas@piefed.social 2 points 2 months ago This comparison chart shows which parts of /e/OS are not deGoogled: https://eylenburg.github.io/android_comparison.htm permalink fedilink source parent [–] snowdriftissue@lemmy.world 1 point 2 months ago (3 children) their site claims Yes, they lie. GrapheneOS is the only fully degoogled android based OS, full stop. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Chulk@lemmy.ml 1 point 2 months ago (2 children) Yes, they lie. GrapheneOS is the only fully degoogled android based OS, full stop. What are they lying about? What part of their OS is not degoogled? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] snowdriftissue@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago (1 child) https://lemmy.world/comment/25381318 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Chulk@lemmy.ml 1 point 2 months ago Awesome thanks for the link permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Tehdastehdas@piefed.social 2 points 2 months ago This comparison chart shows which parts of /e/OS are not deGoogled: https://eylenburg.github.io/android_comparison.htm permalink fedilink source parent
[–] snowdriftissue@lemmy.world 1 point 2 months ago (3 children) their site claims Yes, they lie. GrapheneOS is the only fully degoogled android based OS, full stop. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Chulk@lemmy.ml 1 point 2 months ago (2 children) Yes, they lie. GrapheneOS is the only fully degoogled android based OS, full stop. What are they lying about? What part of their OS is not degoogled? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] snowdriftissue@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago (1 child) https://lemmy.world/comment/25381318 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Chulk@lemmy.ml 1 point 2 months ago Awesome thanks for the link permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Chulk@lemmy.ml 1 point 2 months ago (2 children) Yes, they lie. GrapheneOS is the only fully degoogled android based OS, full stop. What are they lying about? What part of their OS is not degoogled? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] snowdriftissue@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago (1 child) https://lemmy.world/comment/25381318 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Chulk@lemmy.ml 1 point 2 months ago Awesome thanks for the link permalink fedilink source parent
[–] snowdriftissue@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago (1 child) https://lemmy.world/comment/25381318 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Chulk@lemmy.ml 1 point 2 months ago Awesome thanks for the link permalink fedilink source parent
[–] TheMightyCat@ani.social 9 points 2 months ago (9 children) Why not posmarketOS? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 9 child comments replies: [–] lmuel@sopuli.xyz 13 points 2 months ago (3 children) I love Linux as much as the next guy but I've got PostmarketOS as well as Ubuntu touch running on a Fairphone 4 and the experience is far from polished, postmarket doesn't even do VoLTE. Not saying it sucks - I love it. But it's not for everyone and unlikely to replace android for most use cases at the moment unfortunately. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] TheMightyCat@ani.social 16 points 2 months ago* (2 children) postmarket doesn’t even do VoLTE. Well do i have good news for you! https://ani.social/post/34656971 https://ani.social/post/35759149 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] rumba@lemmy.zip 6 points 2 months ago they got the camera kinda working on the 6+ yesterday too https://catcrafts.net/posts/fairphone-6-postmarketos-working-main-camera permalink fedilink source parent [–] lmuel@sopuli.xyz 3 points 2 months ago Yeah I think it just doesn’t work on the FP4 yet. At least I haven’t managed to get it working. On Ubuntu touch it also took years (although that community is also very… special) permalink fedilink source parent [–] rumba@lemmy.zip 9 points 2 months ago I want postmarket so bad. They did actually get a camera working for fairphone 6+, yesterday, kinda, mostly https://catcrafts.net/posts/fairphone-6-postmarketos-working-main-camera I need an ok camera, ok video, gps, volte, sms, and ~18 hours of battery life with maybe 6-8 of it active. permalink fedilink source parent [–] fluffykittycat@slrpnk.net 3 points 2 months ago All of the above, preferably permalink fedilink source parent [–] shortwavesurfer@lemmy.zip 1 point 2 months ago (2 children) That's definitely possible, although it will take some work, because the processor is different from the Fairphone 6, which is currently running post-market OS already. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheMightyCat@ani.social 3 points 2 months ago (1 child) It won't take any work, Luca has confirmed the image works on both Fairphone 6 and Fairphone 6+ https://wiki.postmarketos.org/wiki/Fairphone_(Gen._6)_(fairphone-fp6) its on the wiki now too permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] shortwavesurfer@lemmy.zip 3 points 2 months ago Oh sweet, thanks permalink fedilink source parent
[–] lmuel@sopuli.xyz 13 points 2 months ago (3 children) I love Linux as much as the next guy but I've got PostmarketOS as well as Ubuntu touch running on a Fairphone 4 and the experience is far from polished, postmarket doesn't even do VoLTE. Not saying it sucks - I love it. But it's not for everyone and unlikely to replace android for most use cases at the moment unfortunately. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] TheMightyCat@ani.social 16 points 2 months ago* (2 children) postmarket doesn’t even do VoLTE. Well do i have good news for you! https://ani.social/post/34656971 https://ani.social/post/35759149 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] rumba@lemmy.zip 6 points 2 months ago they got the camera kinda working on the 6+ yesterday too https://catcrafts.net/posts/fairphone-6-postmarketos-working-main-camera permalink fedilink source parent [–] lmuel@sopuli.xyz 3 points 2 months ago Yeah I think it just doesn’t work on the FP4 yet. At least I haven’t managed to get it working. On Ubuntu touch it also took years (although that community is also very… special) permalink fedilink source parent
[–] TheMightyCat@ani.social 16 points 2 months ago* (2 children) postmarket doesn’t even do VoLTE. Well do i have good news for you! https://ani.social/post/34656971 https://ani.social/post/35759149 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] rumba@lemmy.zip 6 points 2 months ago they got the camera kinda working on the 6+ yesterday too https://catcrafts.net/posts/fairphone-6-postmarketos-working-main-camera permalink fedilink source parent [–] lmuel@sopuli.xyz 3 points 2 months ago Yeah I think it just doesn’t work on the FP4 yet. At least I haven’t managed to get it working. On Ubuntu touch it also took years (although that community is also very… special) permalink fedilink source parent
[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 6 points 2 months ago they got the camera kinda working on the 6+ yesterday too https://catcrafts.net/posts/fairphone-6-postmarketos-working-main-camera permalink fedilink source parent
[–] lmuel@sopuli.xyz 3 points 2 months ago Yeah I think it just doesn’t work on the FP4 yet. At least I haven’t managed to get it working. On Ubuntu touch it also took years (although that community is also very… special) permalink fedilink source parent
[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 9 points 2 months ago I want postmarket so bad. They did actually get a camera working for fairphone 6+, yesterday, kinda, mostly https://catcrafts.net/posts/fairphone-6-postmarketos-working-main-camera I need an ok camera, ok video, gps, volte, sms, and ~18 hours of battery life with maybe 6-8 of it active. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] fluffykittycat@slrpnk.net 3 points 2 months ago All of the above, preferably permalink fedilink source parent
[–] shortwavesurfer@lemmy.zip 1 point 2 months ago (2 children) That's definitely possible, although it will take some work, because the processor is different from the Fairphone 6, which is currently running post-market OS already. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheMightyCat@ani.social 3 points 2 months ago (1 child) It won't take any work, Luca has confirmed the image works on both Fairphone 6 and Fairphone 6+ https://wiki.postmarketos.org/wiki/Fairphone_(Gen._6)_(fairphone-fp6) its on the wiki now too permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] shortwavesurfer@lemmy.zip 3 points 2 months ago Oh sweet, thanks permalink fedilink source parent
[–] TheMightyCat@ani.social 3 points 2 months ago (1 child) It won't take any work, Luca has confirmed the image works on both Fairphone 6 and Fairphone 6+ https://wiki.postmarketos.org/wiki/Fairphone_(Gen._6)_(fairphone-fp6) its on the wiki now too permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] shortwavesurfer@lemmy.zip 3 points 2 months ago Oh sweet, thanks permalink fedilink source parent
[–] shortwavesurfer@lemmy.zip 3 points 2 months ago Oh sweet, thanks permalink fedilink source parent