▲ 790 ▼ It's inevitable (lemmy.world) submitted 2 months ago by The_Picard_Maneuver@lemmy.world to c/whitepeopletwitter@sh.itjust.works 91 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] MutantTailThing@lemmy.world 20 points 2 months ago (12 children) Only planet known to support life in the entire universe and all of existence. Let’s have spreadsheets and taxes and shit. permalink fedilink source hideshow 12 child comments replies: [–] WanderingThoughts@europe.pub 12 points 2 months ago Spreadsheets were needed for distribution of stored grain to start. Taxes were used to make it easier to manage soldiers. It was easier to give them coin instead of managing food and stuff for an army. If we'd stay away from agriculture, all this could've been prevented. permalink fedilink source parent [–] rockerface@lemmy.cafe 8 points 2 months ago Nah, spreadsheets are neat. And we need to tax the rich. Let's maybe do away with AI data centers instead. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Bytemeister@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago* (1 child) Maybe spreadsheets are some kind of inevitable entity that has transcended from its physical form. The consequence of existence is spreadsheets. It's a virus that has infected reality, and every part of it pursues the spreadsheet. It's why we haven't met any aliens, once a locality creates spreadsheets, then there is no stable higher order to achieve, without a directive, the underlying drives that built the structures to support the development of spreadsheets become vestigial, and the civilization eventually collapses. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] schmorpel@slrpnk.net 2 points 2 months ago And I thought it was the brain worms from the Tigris permalink fedilink source parent [–] ech@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 months ago (7 children) Your inability to understand the importance of each of those doesn't lend credibility to your disdain of them. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] MutantTailThing@lemmy.world 1 point 2 months ago (6 children) You for real dude? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] ech@lemmy.ca 7 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) Where do you think the infrastructure for society comes from dude? Organization and proper funding enables all the things you like and keeps you from being left in the middle of the wilderness to fend for yourself. permalink fedilink source parent [–] buddascrayon@lemmy.world 12 points 2 months ago (4 children) Taxes are the price we pay for a civilized and functional society. And spreadsheets are just plain cool. I really don't get people who hate spreadsheets. It is literally the best way to organize information. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] ricecake@sh.itjust.works 7 points 2 months ago The disdain for spreadsheets comes from people who don't understand data organization, or people who do. Tabular data? Good. Schemaless? Unstructured? Probably maintained by eleventy-four random sales people and an account? Being given to me like it's a gift and expecting me to just magic it into some reporting system? On a recurring basis? No. Please God no. I can be trusted to use a spreadsheet for my things that I don't share. Other people need to use something that will yell at them when they give it malformed gibberish. Oh, and executable logic doesn't belong in the same context as data. That shit needs to be able to be told apart from the data. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Waraugh@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 months ago* (1 child) Spreadsheets are cool. Where they fall apart they fall apart spectacularly from people insisting on using them as an alternative to a database solution, in my experience. It doesn’t generally matter for normal user centric use cases but I’ve also had to perform a post bankruptcy audit on more than one company that trying to over leverage spreadsheets of duplicate, inconsistent, over saturated, and unreliable data was at the very least a significant contributing factor for the doors being shut. Over ten contract managers all with their own version of a spreadsheet that tracks reportable items for their contracts and gets rolled up to a master spreadsheet via formulas that financial business decisions gets made from is the first immediate example that comes to mind. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 1 point 2 months ago People hate standardized spreadsheets but holy crap businesses need to have them for important things permalink fedilink source parent [–] FrChazzz@lemmus.org 2 points 2 months ago And let's not forget shit! Without shit we'd not have that ancient Sumerian grain! Shit. It's what plants crave! permalink fedilink source parent
[–] WanderingThoughts@europe.pub 12 points 2 months ago Spreadsheets were needed for distribution of stored grain to start. Taxes were used to make it easier to manage soldiers. It was easier to give them coin instead of managing food and stuff for an army. If we'd stay away from agriculture, all this could've been prevented. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] rockerface@lemmy.cafe 8 points 2 months ago Nah, spreadsheets are neat. And we need to tax the rich. Let's maybe do away with AI data centers instead. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Bytemeister@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago* (1 child) Maybe spreadsheets are some kind of inevitable entity that has transcended from its physical form. The consequence of existence is spreadsheets. It's a virus that has infected reality, and every part of it pursues the spreadsheet. It's why we haven't met any aliens, once a locality creates spreadsheets, then there is no stable higher order to achieve, without a directive, the underlying drives that built the structures to support the development of spreadsheets become vestigial, and the civilization eventually collapses. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] schmorpel@slrpnk.net 2 points 2 months ago And I thought it was the brain worms from the Tigris permalink fedilink source parent
[–] schmorpel@slrpnk.net 2 points 2 months ago And I thought it was the brain worms from the Tigris permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ech@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 months ago (7 children) Your inability to understand the importance of each of those doesn't lend credibility to your disdain of them. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] MutantTailThing@lemmy.world 1 point 2 months ago (6 children) You for real dude? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] ech@lemmy.ca 7 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) Where do you think the infrastructure for society comes from dude? Organization and proper funding enables all the things you like and keeps you from being left in the middle of the wilderness to fend for yourself. permalink fedilink source parent [–] buddascrayon@lemmy.world 12 points 2 months ago (4 children) Taxes are the price we pay for a civilized and functional society. And spreadsheets are just plain cool. I really don't get people who hate spreadsheets. It is literally the best way to organize information. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] ricecake@sh.itjust.works 7 points 2 months ago The disdain for spreadsheets comes from people who don't understand data organization, or people who do. Tabular data? Good. Schemaless? Unstructured? Probably maintained by eleventy-four random sales people and an account? Being given to me like it's a gift and expecting me to just magic it into some reporting system? On a recurring basis? No. Please God no. I can be trusted to use a spreadsheet for my things that I don't share. Other people need to use something that will yell at them when they give it malformed gibberish. Oh, and executable logic doesn't belong in the same context as data. That shit needs to be able to be told apart from the data. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Waraugh@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 months ago* (1 child) Spreadsheets are cool. Where they fall apart they fall apart spectacularly from people insisting on using them as an alternative to a database solution, in my experience. It doesn’t generally matter for normal user centric use cases but I’ve also had to perform a post bankruptcy audit on more than one company that trying to over leverage spreadsheets of duplicate, inconsistent, over saturated, and unreliable data was at the very least a significant contributing factor for the doors being shut. Over ten contract managers all with their own version of a spreadsheet that tracks reportable items for their contracts and gets rolled up to a master spreadsheet via formulas that financial business decisions gets made from is the first immediate example that comes to mind. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 1 point 2 months ago People hate standardized spreadsheets but holy crap businesses need to have them for important things permalink fedilink source parent [–] FrChazzz@lemmus.org 2 points 2 months ago And let's not forget shit! Without shit we'd not have that ancient Sumerian grain! Shit. It's what plants crave! permalink fedilink source parent
[–] MutantTailThing@lemmy.world 1 point 2 months ago (6 children) You for real dude? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] ech@lemmy.ca 7 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) Where do you think the infrastructure for society comes from dude? Organization and proper funding enables all the things you like and keeps you from being left in the middle of the wilderness to fend for yourself. permalink fedilink source parent [–] buddascrayon@lemmy.world 12 points 2 months ago (4 children) Taxes are the price we pay for a civilized and functional society. And spreadsheets are just plain cool. I really don't get people who hate spreadsheets. It is literally the best way to organize information. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] ricecake@sh.itjust.works 7 points 2 months ago The disdain for spreadsheets comes from people who don't understand data organization, or people who do. Tabular data? Good. Schemaless? Unstructured? Probably maintained by eleventy-four random sales people and an account? Being given to me like it's a gift and expecting me to just magic it into some reporting system? On a recurring basis? No. Please God no. I can be trusted to use a spreadsheet for my things that I don't share. Other people need to use something that will yell at them when they give it malformed gibberish. Oh, and executable logic doesn't belong in the same context as data. That shit needs to be able to be told apart from the data. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Waraugh@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 months ago* (1 child) Spreadsheets are cool. Where they fall apart they fall apart spectacularly from people insisting on using them as an alternative to a database solution, in my experience. It doesn’t generally matter for normal user centric use cases but I’ve also had to perform a post bankruptcy audit on more than one company that trying to over leverage spreadsheets of duplicate, inconsistent, over saturated, and unreliable data was at the very least a significant contributing factor for the doors being shut. Over ten contract managers all with their own version of a spreadsheet that tracks reportable items for their contracts and gets rolled up to a master spreadsheet via formulas that financial business decisions gets made from is the first immediate example that comes to mind. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 1 point 2 months ago People hate standardized spreadsheets but holy crap businesses need to have them for important things permalink fedilink source parent [–] FrChazzz@lemmus.org 2 points 2 months ago And let's not forget shit! Without shit we'd not have that ancient Sumerian grain! Shit. It's what plants crave! permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ech@lemmy.ca 7 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) Where do you think the infrastructure for society comes from dude? Organization and proper funding enables all the things you like and keeps you from being left in the middle of the wilderness to fend for yourself. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] buddascrayon@lemmy.world 12 points 2 months ago (4 children) Taxes are the price we pay for a civilized and functional society. And spreadsheets are just plain cool. I really don't get people who hate spreadsheets. It is literally the best way to organize information. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] ricecake@sh.itjust.works 7 points 2 months ago The disdain for spreadsheets comes from people who don't understand data organization, or people who do. Tabular data? Good. Schemaless? Unstructured? Probably maintained by eleventy-four random sales people and an account? Being given to me like it's a gift and expecting me to just magic it into some reporting system? On a recurring basis? No. Please God no. I can be trusted to use a spreadsheet for my things that I don't share. Other people need to use something that will yell at them when they give it malformed gibberish. Oh, and executable logic doesn't belong in the same context as data. That shit needs to be able to be told apart from the data. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Waraugh@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 months ago* (1 child) Spreadsheets are cool. Where they fall apart they fall apart spectacularly from people insisting on using them as an alternative to a database solution, in my experience. It doesn’t generally matter for normal user centric use cases but I’ve also had to perform a post bankruptcy audit on more than one company that trying to over leverage spreadsheets of duplicate, inconsistent, over saturated, and unreliable data was at the very least a significant contributing factor for the doors being shut. Over ten contract managers all with their own version of a spreadsheet that tracks reportable items for their contracts and gets rolled up to a master spreadsheet via formulas that financial business decisions gets made from is the first immediate example that comes to mind. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 1 point 2 months ago People hate standardized spreadsheets but holy crap businesses need to have them for important things permalink fedilink source parent [–] FrChazzz@lemmus.org 2 points 2 months ago And let's not forget shit! Without shit we'd not have that ancient Sumerian grain! Shit. It's what plants crave! permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ricecake@sh.itjust.works 7 points 2 months ago The disdain for spreadsheets comes from people who don't understand data organization, or people who do. Tabular data? Good. Schemaless? Unstructured? Probably maintained by eleventy-four random sales people and an account? Being given to me like it's a gift and expecting me to just magic it into some reporting system? On a recurring basis? No. Please God no. I can be trusted to use a spreadsheet for my things that I don't share. Other people need to use something that will yell at them when they give it malformed gibberish. Oh, and executable logic doesn't belong in the same context as data. That shit needs to be able to be told apart from the data. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Waraugh@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 months ago* (1 child) Spreadsheets are cool. Where they fall apart they fall apart spectacularly from people insisting on using them as an alternative to a database solution, in my experience. It doesn’t generally matter for normal user centric use cases but I’ve also had to perform a post bankruptcy audit on more than one company that trying to over leverage spreadsheets of duplicate, inconsistent, over saturated, and unreliable data was at the very least a significant contributing factor for the doors being shut. Over ten contract managers all with their own version of a spreadsheet that tracks reportable items for their contracts and gets rolled up to a master spreadsheet via formulas that financial business decisions gets made from is the first immediate example that comes to mind. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 1 point 2 months ago People hate standardized spreadsheets but holy crap businesses need to have them for important things permalink fedilink source parent
[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 1 point 2 months ago People hate standardized spreadsheets but holy crap businesses need to have them for important things permalink fedilink source parent
[–] FrChazzz@lemmus.org 2 points 2 months ago And let's not forget shit! Without shit we'd not have that ancient Sumerian grain! Shit. It's what plants crave! permalink fedilink source parent