6
Jacob Berger asking for nudes while on the Gaza Flotilla (lemmy.ml)
submitted 2 months ago by to c/ManufacturingConsent@lemmy.ml
93 comments fedilink hide all child comments
 

He’s still taken seriously in these organizations despite all the allegations against him. Every day this stuff gets easier. I’ve partly automated it.

You know, one of the reasons women make better feds is they don't have such a severe, unseemly need to seek out sexual violence. I want to find the Catherine Shakdams. This guy even looks like a cop.

you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] 9 points 2 months ago (10 children)

No, but you don't understand! He's being sexual! And he's a cishet man! That automatically makes him a predator and a much bigger problem than the Zionism he's actively opposing!!

And since OP refused to elaborate on context that's the only conclusion I can draw as to what their problem here is

  • permalink
  • fedilink
  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 10 child comments
    •
  • [–] 0 points 2 months ago* (9 children)

    I mean… just being a normal guy here, it’s kinda gross no? Even as a “joke”, it’s kinda gross. Not even kinda, it’s just gross. I think OP was more concerned about the responsibility public figures have and calling him out for being weird like this is totally valid. We should be holding people accountable for things not shielding him because he’s on a flotilla. Even if he’s not a grifter other people should be telling him to shape up. I’ve seen crass YouTubers do this flotilla thing and they weren’t gross or never allegations from Palestinian Americans that he fetishizes the people he wants to “help”…

  • permalink
  • fedilink
  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 9 child comments
    •
  • [–] 5 points 2 months ago (8 children)

    Hold him accountable for what, exactly? What's gross about it? He's an adult man asking adult women to send him nudes. He's not badgering anyone, nothing about the post fetishized anyone, and he's not sending nudes unsolicited. So what's "gross"? Just the fact that a cishet dude is horny posting on main? Like, genuinely, if that's not the objection, then what is?

  • permalink
  • fedilink
  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 8 child comments
    •
  • [–] 3 points 2 months ago* (3 children)

    You aren’t entitled to women’s bodies just because you “cast a wide net” and you do activism. Women are valid for calling this act sexist, childish, objectifying behavior.

    He should specifically be held accountable for being a pig, just as you are being for defending him. Seriously what is wrong with you guys? Too much Chapo?

  • permalink
  • fedilink
  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 3 child comments
    •
  • [–] 0 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    You aren’t entitled to women’s bodies

    Asking isn't entitlement. Demanding might be, but asking absolutely never is.

    But you aren't entitled to a sexless, sterile, boring world just because you've rotted your brain away with TikTok level gen Z pseudofeminism. Most adults enjoy sex, and will even talk about it occasionally. That's not predator behavior, even if it's a straight dude doing it. Fuck all the way off with your bullshit puritanism.

  • permalink
  • fedilink
  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 2 child comments
    •
  • [–] 2 points 2 months ago* (1 child)

    You think I want a sexless future because you’re being a fucking pig? Western men are truly all the same, y'all can’t even face criticism for your sexist opinions online without resorting to telling me I believe things that I don’t.

    All of a sudden telling other men to act normal is me saying I don’t like sex and women and men can’t be horny, you guys have seriously twisted world views of you think Jacob’s post is OK but women calling him gross isn’t. Tell me, why aren’t you arguing with the women in this thread who don’t appreciate your pig comments, are they also anti-sex puritans?

    Women aren’t your objects. Asking women randomly to send their titties and pussy pics is absolutely entitled. The fact you see it as “Just asking” is so dumb.

    Insult me all you want you are not entitled to seeing anyone’s body and I sincerely hope no stupid women fall for your (or this actors) weird behavior. Don’t send these gross fuckers any pictures of yourselves ladies they’ll probably end up online

  • permalink
  • fedilink
  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 1 child comment
    •
  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago*

    You think I want a sexless future because you’re being a fucking pig?

    I know you're at the very least on the side of the people who want a sexless future because you think I'm a pig for saying there's nothing wrong with asking for casual/meaningless sexual activity as long as you take no for an answer and don't bother someone who's made it clear they aren't interested.

    And that's all I need to know to know you're 100% wrong about this subject. Tbh, you're pretty fucking based on everything else I've ever seen you engage with on Lemmy, but you're not even in the same ballpark as right on this. Saying that any public expression of horniness by a straight dude is inherently entitled and predatory (and that's what you're doing here, whether you want to accept it or not) is reactionary AF. You're defending bourgeois sexual mores originally created to maximize the price bronze aged goat fuckers could get for selling their preteen daughters to middle aged men. There is no version of purity culture that's compatible with a world free of domination systems.

    From other comments I gather he has done things that are genuinely bad, so call him out for that. Make sure everyone contemplating sending him nudes knows who they're sending them to. But don't pretend him asking for nudes is in the same category of behavior. That's not only fucked up, it's counter-revolutionary.

  • permalink
  • fedilink
  • source
  • parent
  • [–] 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (3 children)

    Hold him accountable for being sexist. defending this in this way just says more about you than you realize.

  • permalink
  • fedilink
  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 3 child comments
    •
  • [–] -1 points 2 months ago* (2 children)

    So, to be absolutely clear: you believe a blanket invitation to women to send nudes is sexist?

    Edit: nevermind. You answered that very clearly in another reply

    You are a fucking child and your opinion is worth less then the dog shit I scraped off my boots this morning. There is nothing. Inherently sexist about horniness, even when it's a cishet man being horny. Fuck your stupid puritan ideals and the sexless future you want to create.

  • permalink
  • fedilink
  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 2 child comments
    •
  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago (1 child)

    Yeah because I call out a pig being a gross pig, I want a sexless future. Literal child thinking. You may think you aren’t acting like a fucking dog but you are. It’s okay it just shows me how most other men deal with their sexual feelings. Go and sexualize more women and call me a puritan lmfao.

  • permalink
  • fedilink
  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 1 child comment
    •