▲ 466 ▼ Password manager by Amazon (lemmy.world) submitted 1 year ago by kokesh@lemmy.world to c/technology@lemmy.world 129 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] Serinus@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (6 children) Wait, what? How does autofill get fooled? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] gaylord_fartmaster@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (5 children) Someone manages to maliciously sneak username and password fields onto a site that store what is entered as soon as it's typed. They don't even have to be visible to the user and bitwarden will fill them in as soon as the page loads. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] Serinus@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (4 children) Bitwarden will only autofill if the domain matches. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] gaylord_fartmaster@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (3 children) Right, "maliciously sneak", as in they've either gained access to make changes to the site ditectly, or they've found a way to inject their scripts to steal creds. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Serinus@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children) And how is that any different from not having a password manager? Yes, if someone hijacks a domain they can get credentials intended for that domain. A password manager doesn't make a huge difference here, because why would they make the site look any different than normal? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] gaylord_fartmaster@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 child) They don't even have to be visible to the user and bitwarden will fill them in as soon as the page loads. I guess you didn't read most of the comment. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Cocodapuf@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago* No, he did, here's where the confusion is. Serinus is asking if the site in question needs to be compromised. In other words, can the attacker compromise a random site to fool your password manager into entering credentials for Gmail.com, or does the attacker have to compromise Gmail.com to do that? Because those two attacks are very different levels of complexity. And frankly, if someone compromises the site you're actually trying to visit, there's simply no defense against that at all. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] gaylord_fartmaster@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (5 children) Someone manages to maliciously sneak username and password fields onto a site that store what is entered as soon as it's typed. They don't even have to be visible to the user and bitwarden will fill them in as soon as the page loads. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] Serinus@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (4 children) Bitwarden will only autofill if the domain matches. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] gaylord_fartmaster@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (3 children) Right, "maliciously sneak", as in they've either gained access to make changes to the site ditectly, or they've found a way to inject their scripts to steal creds. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Serinus@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children) And how is that any different from not having a password manager? Yes, if someone hijacks a domain they can get credentials intended for that domain. A password manager doesn't make a huge difference here, because why would they make the site look any different than normal? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] gaylord_fartmaster@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 child) They don't even have to be visible to the user and bitwarden will fill them in as soon as the page loads. I guess you didn't read most of the comment. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Cocodapuf@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago* No, he did, here's where the confusion is. Serinus is asking if the site in question needs to be compromised. In other words, can the attacker compromise a random site to fool your password manager into entering credentials for Gmail.com, or does the attacker have to compromise Gmail.com to do that? Because those two attacks are very different levels of complexity. And frankly, if someone compromises the site you're actually trying to visit, there's simply no defense against that at all. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Serinus@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (4 children) Bitwarden will only autofill if the domain matches. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] gaylord_fartmaster@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (3 children) Right, "maliciously sneak", as in they've either gained access to make changes to the site ditectly, or they've found a way to inject their scripts to steal creds. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Serinus@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children) And how is that any different from not having a password manager? Yes, if someone hijacks a domain they can get credentials intended for that domain. A password manager doesn't make a huge difference here, because why would they make the site look any different than normal? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] gaylord_fartmaster@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 child) They don't even have to be visible to the user and bitwarden will fill them in as soon as the page loads. I guess you didn't read most of the comment. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Cocodapuf@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago* No, he did, here's where the confusion is. Serinus is asking if the site in question needs to be compromised. In other words, can the attacker compromise a random site to fool your password manager into entering credentials for Gmail.com, or does the attacker have to compromise Gmail.com to do that? Because those two attacks are very different levels of complexity. And frankly, if someone compromises the site you're actually trying to visit, there's simply no defense against that at all. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] gaylord_fartmaster@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (3 children) Right, "maliciously sneak", as in they've either gained access to make changes to the site ditectly, or they've found a way to inject their scripts to steal creds. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Serinus@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children) And how is that any different from not having a password manager? Yes, if someone hijacks a domain they can get credentials intended for that domain. A password manager doesn't make a huge difference here, because why would they make the site look any different than normal? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] gaylord_fartmaster@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 child) They don't even have to be visible to the user and bitwarden will fill them in as soon as the page loads. I guess you didn't read most of the comment. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Cocodapuf@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago* No, he did, here's where the confusion is. Serinus is asking if the site in question needs to be compromised. In other words, can the attacker compromise a random site to fool your password manager into entering credentials for Gmail.com, or does the attacker have to compromise Gmail.com to do that? Because those two attacks are very different levels of complexity. And frankly, if someone compromises the site you're actually trying to visit, there's simply no defense against that at all. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Serinus@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children) And how is that any different from not having a password manager? Yes, if someone hijacks a domain they can get credentials intended for that domain. A password manager doesn't make a huge difference here, because why would they make the site look any different than normal? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] gaylord_fartmaster@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 child) They don't even have to be visible to the user and bitwarden will fill them in as soon as the page loads. I guess you didn't read most of the comment. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Cocodapuf@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago* No, he did, here's where the confusion is. Serinus is asking if the site in question needs to be compromised. In other words, can the attacker compromise a random site to fool your password manager into entering credentials for Gmail.com, or does the attacker have to compromise Gmail.com to do that? Because those two attacks are very different levels of complexity. And frankly, if someone compromises the site you're actually trying to visit, there's simply no defense against that at all. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] gaylord_fartmaster@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 child) They don't even have to be visible to the user and bitwarden will fill them in as soon as the page loads. I guess you didn't read most of the comment. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Cocodapuf@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago* No, he did, here's where the confusion is. Serinus is asking if the site in question needs to be compromised. In other words, can the attacker compromise a random site to fool your password manager into entering credentials for Gmail.com, or does the attacker have to compromise Gmail.com to do that? Because those two attacks are very different levels of complexity. And frankly, if someone compromises the site you're actually trying to visit, there's simply no defense against that at all. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Cocodapuf@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago* No, he did, here's where the confusion is. Serinus is asking if the site in question needs to be compromised. In other words, can the attacker compromise a random site to fool your password manager into entering credentials for Gmail.com, or does the attacker have to compromise Gmail.com to do that? Because those two attacks are very different levels of complexity. And frankly, if someone compromises the site you're actually trying to visit, there's simply no defense against that at all. permalink fedilink source parent