▲ 193 ▼ Is Google Gemini trained on Google docs? One indie developer thinks so, after it told players about his unreleased game plans (www.techradar.com) submitted 3 months ago by Sunshine@piefed.ca to c/privacy@programming.dev 24 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] lambalicious@lemmy.sdf.org -1 points 3 months ago (7 children) If it was written only the day before there’s no way the model was trained on that data. [citation needed] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net 3 points 3 months ago (5 children) You want citation about how time works? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] lambalicious@lemmy.sdf.org 1 point 3 months ago (2 children) Do any of us understand how time works? I still feel like it's past Friday! I'm asking for citation on the idea that it's not possible for the model to have been trained on that data from the day before if it was already readily available for them. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net 0 points 3 months ago (1 child) https://docs.cloud.google.com/gemini-enterprise-agent-platform/models/model-versions permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] lambalicious@lemmy.sdf.org 1 point 2 months ago That only says when a new given model is released; not whether the model can use data that finds today yesterday on the internet to fine-tune, which is the current issue. If you have two secrets, and an internet thing guesses both of them, it's not irrational to suspect there is a leak (or a "leak") the internet thing is grabbing from. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 1 point 3 months ago (1 child) How does time work? 🤔 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net 1 point 3 months ago You have 3 arrows of time: one points from the smaller universe to bigger universe, second points from universe with lower entropy to higher entropy and third points from what we perceive as past and remember to the future that we don't remember. Right now those 3 arrows of time are aligned and points in the same direction. It's possible that first arrow will change direction at some point, second will not and we don't know about the third. So on universe's level it's complicated. On human level we simply remember events "behind on" on the timeline and don't remember the ones "in front of us". It's not clear why or if this can change. Maybe it's different for other organisms. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Hexarei@beehaw.org 3 points 3 months ago Model training takes a long time permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net 3 points 3 months ago (5 children) You want citation about how time works? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] lambalicious@lemmy.sdf.org 1 point 3 months ago (2 children) Do any of us understand how time works? I still feel like it's past Friday! I'm asking for citation on the idea that it's not possible for the model to have been trained on that data from the day before if it was already readily available for them. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net 0 points 3 months ago (1 child) https://docs.cloud.google.com/gemini-enterprise-agent-platform/models/model-versions permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] lambalicious@lemmy.sdf.org 1 point 2 months ago That only says when a new given model is released; not whether the model can use data that finds today yesterday on the internet to fine-tune, which is the current issue. If you have two secrets, and an internet thing guesses both of them, it's not irrational to suspect there is a leak (or a "leak") the internet thing is grabbing from. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 1 point 3 months ago (1 child) How does time work? 🤔 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net 1 point 3 months ago You have 3 arrows of time: one points from the smaller universe to bigger universe, second points from universe with lower entropy to higher entropy and third points from what we perceive as past and remember to the future that we don't remember. Right now those 3 arrows of time are aligned and points in the same direction. It's possible that first arrow will change direction at some point, second will not and we don't know about the third. So on universe's level it's complicated. On human level we simply remember events "behind on" on the timeline and don't remember the ones "in front of us". It's not clear why or if this can change. Maybe it's different for other organisms. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] lambalicious@lemmy.sdf.org 1 point 3 months ago (2 children) Do any of us understand how time works? I still feel like it's past Friday! I'm asking for citation on the idea that it's not possible for the model to have been trained on that data from the day before if it was already readily available for them. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net 0 points 3 months ago (1 child) https://docs.cloud.google.com/gemini-enterprise-agent-platform/models/model-versions permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] lambalicious@lemmy.sdf.org 1 point 2 months ago That only says when a new given model is released; not whether the model can use data that finds today yesterday on the internet to fine-tune, which is the current issue. If you have two secrets, and an internet thing guesses both of them, it's not irrational to suspect there is a leak (or a "leak") the internet thing is grabbing from. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net 0 points 3 months ago (1 child) https://docs.cloud.google.com/gemini-enterprise-agent-platform/models/model-versions permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] lambalicious@lemmy.sdf.org 1 point 2 months ago That only says when a new given model is released; not whether the model can use data that finds today yesterday on the internet to fine-tune, which is the current issue. If you have two secrets, and an internet thing guesses both of them, it's not irrational to suspect there is a leak (or a "leak") the internet thing is grabbing from. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] lambalicious@lemmy.sdf.org 1 point 2 months ago That only says when a new given model is released; not whether the model can use data that finds today yesterday on the internet to fine-tune, which is the current issue. If you have two secrets, and an internet thing guesses both of them, it's not irrational to suspect there is a leak (or a "leak") the internet thing is grabbing from. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 1 point 3 months ago (1 child) How does time work? 🤔 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net 1 point 3 months ago You have 3 arrows of time: one points from the smaller universe to bigger universe, second points from universe with lower entropy to higher entropy and third points from what we perceive as past and remember to the future that we don't remember. Right now those 3 arrows of time are aligned and points in the same direction. It's possible that first arrow will change direction at some point, second will not and we don't know about the third. So on universe's level it's complicated. On human level we simply remember events "behind on" on the timeline and don't remember the ones "in front of us". It's not clear why or if this can change. Maybe it's different for other organisms. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net 1 point 3 months ago You have 3 arrows of time: one points from the smaller universe to bigger universe, second points from universe with lower entropy to higher entropy and third points from what we perceive as past and remember to the future that we don't remember. Right now those 3 arrows of time are aligned and points in the same direction. It's possible that first arrow will change direction at some point, second will not and we don't know about the third. So on universe's level it's complicated. On human level we simply remember events "behind on" on the timeline and don't remember the ones "in front of us". It's not clear why or if this can change. Maybe it's different for other organisms. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Hexarei@beehaw.org 3 points 3 months ago Model training takes a long time permalink fedilink source parent