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The Tech Market Situation is Crazy (medium.com)
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[–] -5 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (20 children)

Wow, fuck you too. Strawmanning people in dire financial circumstances is fun, I guess.

Stop punching down, asshole.

I apologize for taking this tone - I was obviously a little too emotional about this. The author's discussion in the comments here was very respectful.

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  • [–] 10 points 3 months ago (2 children)

    Missing that an article is satire, that happens. Missing that an article is satire when it's marked as satire and calls itself satire within the overy-over-the-top-satire article, that's a completely different thing.

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  • [–] 6 points 3 months ago (13 children)

    It's satire

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  • [–] 0 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (12 children)

    It's satire of the people who are out of work because they "won't adapt to the AI paradigm"

    eta: which seems like a bad thing, yeah?

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  • [–] 7 points 3 months ago (4 children)

    Looks like you didn't read the post or reacted too quickly and too angrily.

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  • [–] -2 points 3 months ago* (3 children)

    Are you sure you read it? The POV character gets fired (and ends up working as a janitor doorman) because they only start using it "too late".

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  • [–] [S] 4 points 3 months ago (2 children)

    It's implied that he actually gets fired because of refusing orders for 3 weeks, and then slacking off another week.

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  • [–] 0 points 3 months ago* (1 child)

    But you frame the only alternative as "use the AI tools we tell you to".

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  • [–] [S] 0 points 3 months ago*

    I don't actually think I frame that as the only alternative. There's nuance on the article. It's a bit up to you how to interpret it. Some options are:

    • He would have actually kept the job if he hadn't slacked off the final week, and kept using AI.
    • The job was not a good fit for him anyway because the vibecode-heavy workspace virtually required using AI. But that doesn't meant that there wouldn't be other jobs for him (he gets one at the end btw).
    • He might have been able to get by without AI if he didn't go through his gargantuan vimwiki project for 3 weeks.
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  • [–] [S] -3 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (6 children)

    For the record, I think the entire spectrum of accepting/rejecting AI has valid points, and that there's a lot of value on the rejection side. I also think it's alright to make fun of some of them, particularly if doing it mostly to highlight some contradictions and conflicts, without making a moral judgement.

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  • [–] 3 points 3 months ago* (5 children)

    Deciding whether or not to use AI in your work is a valid issue to discuss, but being unemployed right now is almost entirely a function of a shitty job market, not being a stick in the mud.

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  • [–] [S] -1 points 3 months ago* (4 children)

    Well, the idea was to have a narrator who is a bit self-sabotaging in their job hunt, doesn't notice, and blames the job market and AI. The nuance is that they are partially right on the external diagnosis, but not on the internal one, and that's something that happens.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 months ago (3 children)

    That's what I mean by punching down, though. There's no criticism of the outside factors - all the blame falls on the PoV character.

    There have always been (and always will be) engineers with self-sabotaging tendencies, but with plenty to contribute nonetheless. It shouldn't be a sentence for poverty.

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  • [–] [S] 0 points 3 months ago* (2 children)

    There’s no criticism of the outside factors

    The article literally starts with "In 2026, the job market is tough. AI plunged us all into economic despair" (itself exaggerated, and a play on the typical "AI doomer" clickbait articles saying what we all know more dramatically, which is another can of worms).

    It shouldn’t be a sentence for poverty.

    Agreed. And in the article it isn't. He does get a job at the end.

    But yeah, I can see how your reading of the article is valid. I'll sleep on it and see if I can do something about it.

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  • [–] 0 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 child)

    "In 2026, the job market is tough. AI plunged us all into economic despair" (itself exaggerated, and a play on the typical "AI doomer" clickbait articles [...])

    The choice to frame this with parody is a bit problematic, though, since it makes it sound like your piece agrees that the economic issues are wildly overblown. They are somewhat, of course, but it's also a very difficult time for many people.

    I can see how your reading of the article is valid. I'll sleep on it and see if I can do something about it.

    Thank you for the acknowledgement. Maybe I'm over-identifying with your character, but the piece hit me pretty hard in a bad way. Your empathy is really appreciated.

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  • [–] [S] 2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

    I assure you that's way off from my intent. But for privacy reasons, I don't want to discuss publicly my financial circumstances and how appropriate they might be in the context of writing this. In any case, I appreciate your feedback on how this could be read. I'll keep it in mind, and I apologize.

    Anything in particular that felt like punching down or strawmanning people in financial problems?

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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago* (1 child)

    You're essentially implying, throughout the piece, that being unemployed in the current tech market is a result of failing to use AI tools, completely regardless of the fact that employers have laid off (and continue to lay off) tens of thousands of qualified engineers in order to increase spending on more AI tools.

    You're insinuating that being out of work (at a time when the cost of living is extravagant nearly everywhere) is entirely the fault of the workers, regardless of the shitty, greedy behavior of employers and the industry in general.

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  • [–] [S] 0 points 3 months ago

    I don't imply that being able to use AI tools is a panacea to get a job. I don't imply that the reason for many lay offs isn't related to AI.

    I don't insinuate that being out of work is entirely the fault of the worker. I'm just making the nuanced point that some workers can sometimes do more beneficial things when looking for work, without realizing that that's the case. This can happen despite the main barrier to getting a job being a completely external cause (as it's indeed implied in the article).

    I understand that the topic is uncomfortable. That's why I tried to to put it in the context of humor and satire. Basically I'm asking what can we do better when trying to get a job, even if an external, uncontrollable situation would make any improvement almost pointless.

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