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Zelenskyy on Iranian threats: They've already attacked Ukraine (www.pravda.com.ua)
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[–] 25 points 3 months ago (9 children)

How? Ukraine is supplying intercepter drones and training, not attack drones. And Iran has been supplying Shaheds to Russia sinsce 2022 and now they want to cry that Ukraine hit an iranian ship making an arms resupply run?

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  • [–] 12 points 3 months ago (4 children)

    How?

    Ask zelenskyy, he has pointed out that iran and north korna have already attacked ukraine by supplying russia with weapons, military technology and troops.

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  • [–] 9 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (3 children)

    For starters, North Korea literally sent troops to fight the Ukrainian army, so you got no leg to stand on there. And as I said, Iran has supplied Shaheds since 2022. If your country still supplies the very drones that Russia uses to pepper Ukrainian cities with, you are directly responsible for the death of Ukrainian civilians.

    As I also said, Ukraine doesn't provide attack drones to the US, they are intercepter drones, designed to destroy attack drones. Ukraine also only started to supply them recently.

    Ukraine doesn't provide offensive capabilities to the US and they are certainly not committing troops to engage Iran on behalf of the US.

    There simply is no comparison between what Iran has been doing to Ukraine and what Ukraine is doing to Iran.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 months ago*

    Enabling someone to defend themselves as they ruthlessly attack someone else is no different to bombing them yourself.

    It’s the same logic that applies to Israel and the iron dome. By giving them the means to defend themselves they are free to enact their genocide without repercussion.

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  • [–] 8 points 3 months ago (3 children)

    Ukraine is supplying intercepter drones and training, not attack drones.

    Yeah, so it's fine if America gives Israel Iron Dome missiles right?

    Hint: The answer is "no it's not."

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  • [–] 2 points 3 months ago (2 children)

    Those are two very different scales. And the problem is not that the US is giving Israel the means to defend itself, the issue is that the US also enables Israel to commit its crimes all the time.

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  • [–] 8 points 3 months ago*

    Those are two sides of the same coin. The US enables Israel to commit its crimes all the time partly by protecting it from retaliation it'd normally face due to those crimes. Helping a serial killer defend himself while he's serial killing still makes one party to serial killing. Also the scale is different, but the act is the same.

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  • [–] 6 points 3 months ago

    How about when defensive systems allows a state to withstand retaliatory strikes to their own offensive operations? How does this differenciate any of the parties mentioned? So yes the issue is that the US is giving (defensive) weapons that enable Israel to attack without substantial reprocussions.

    Hell we even fund their socialized healthcare while we pay out the fucking nose

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