▲ 392 ▼ Microsoft responds to LG monitors installing McAfee ads on Windows (arstechnica.com) submitted 3 months ago by vegeta@lemmy.world to c/technology@lemmy.world 123 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] ShredderFeeder@shredderfood.net 76 points 3 months ago (17 children) So LG is on the list of never buy again...good to know... Pity, they used to make good shit.. permalink fedilink source hideshow 17 child comments replies: [–] axh@lemmy.world 45 points 3 months ago (7 children) I am worried that soon we will need a "decent enough to buy" list because it will be difficult to find anything that is not on the "never buy again" list. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] grue@lemmy.world 18 points 3 months ago There are only a few companies that make the actual panels (regardless of how the finished TV or monitor was branded), and two of the biggest (LG and Samsung) are the worst offenders in terms of enshittification. It would not take much at all for the availability of new non-enshittified TVs and computer monitors to drop to literally zero. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Smoogs@lemmy.world 1 point 3 months ago (5 children) first on the list: linux. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] axh@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago (4 children) Your buying Linux? But honestly, I already switched on my PC and would like to switch to any open distro on my phone as well, but I'm worried that bank applications won't work on the "unofficial" system. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Smoogs@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago (2 children) you could just go browser mode. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] seriousslayerguy@lemmy.world 1 point 3 months ago (1 child) What about contactless payment/NFC? I don't think a browser allows that? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Smoogs@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago Dunno. That's your risky decision to do that. Not mine. permalink fedilink source parent [–] AlligatorBlizzard@sh.itjust.works 1 point 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) Quite a few banking apps work on Graphene OS. My bank isn't listed and it works on Graphene too (I really should contribute to that list). The big downside is probably having to buy a new phone for it but if you need to upgrade anyway it might be worth considering. The only app I've run into so far that didn't just work was the Target app but it works with a bit of tinkering. I've only been using Graphene on my phone for two weeks now but all of the apps I used on my old phone are on here and working. permalink fedilink source parent [–] THB@lemmy.world 9 points 3 months ago* (8 children) Seriously. I have an old LG plasma TV that I was planning to replace with an LG, but definitely not now. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] dethedrus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 3 months ago (4 children) I bought an LG TV last year. I has never been online and never will be. It gets served through a streaming box and that's all the info it gets. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] steelplatedmech@piefed.ca 6 points 3 months ago (2 children) The problem was you could do the right thing of keeping it offline, but that it used Windows to install unwanted software. Of course, solution is install Linux, but for the average user who decides to hook up their laptop and is using Windows they'd end up with unpleasant software installed. And it affected LG monitors too, which means Windows PC users were affected. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] dethedrus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 3 months ago (1 child) Realize that we're talking apples and oranges here (PC monitor vs TV). I was responding to someone about their invasive TV practices. I'm lazy and curmudgeonly on my PC, so it's running an IoT version of Windows 10 LTSC. No such shenanigans here. For now. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] steelplatedmech@piefed.ca 2 points 3 months ago To be extra safe you should do gpedit.msc -> Computer Configuration -> Administrative Templates -> System -> Device Installation -> Prevent automatic download of applications associated with metadata This is the type of stuff that leads to auto installs of applications such as logitech, razer, and in this case LG companion app. Can't really rely on ltsc, since it was utilizing Windows driver install process so any device that tries to do what LG did is a risk. Its why people with LG monitors found that app installed despite not having smart TV functionality. permalink fedilink source parent [–] frongt@lemmy.zip 0 points 3 months ago Same. I have no complaints about mine whatsoever. permalink fedilink source parent [–] ltxrtquq@lemmy.ml 5 points 3 months ago (2 children) I'm not sure there are any TV manufacturers that won't try to fill your screen with ads and track what you're watching, you just need to make sure your TV can't access the internet. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] BigDaddySlim@lemmy.world 6 points 3 months ago Sceptre makes dumb panels still, limited range of options but better than being spied on if you just need a replacement screen. permalink fedilink source parent [–] steelplatedmech@piefed.ca 3 points 3 months ago That isnt enough since even dumb displays like LG monitors used Windows itself to install unwanted software on people's PCs. Would have to actually disable that setting in Windows or use Linux. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] axh@lemmy.world 45 points 3 months ago (7 children) I am worried that soon we will need a "decent enough to buy" list because it will be difficult to find anything that is not on the "never buy again" list. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] grue@lemmy.world 18 points 3 months ago There are only a few companies that make the actual panels (regardless of how the finished TV or monitor was branded), and two of the biggest (LG and Samsung) are the worst offenders in terms of enshittification. It would not take much at all for the availability of new non-enshittified TVs and computer monitors to drop to literally zero. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Smoogs@lemmy.world 1 point 3 months ago (5 children) first on the list: linux. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] axh@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago (4 children) Your buying Linux? But honestly, I already switched on my PC and would like to switch to any open distro on my phone as well, but I'm worried that bank applications won't work on the "unofficial" system. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Smoogs@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago (2 children) you could just go browser mode. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] seriousslayerguy@lemmy.world 1 point 3 months ago (1 child) What about contactless payment/NFC? I don't think a browser allows that? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Smoogs@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago Dunno. That's your risky decision to do that. Not mine. permalink fedilink source parent [–] AlligatorBlizzard@sh.itjust.works 1 point 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) Quite a few banking apps work on Graphene OS. My bank isn't listed and it works on Graphene too (I really should contribute to that list). The big downside is probably having to buy a new phone for it but if you need to upgrade anyway it might be worth considering. The only app I've run into so far that didn't just work was the Target app but it works with a bit of tinkering. I've only been using Graphene on my phone for two weeks now but all of the apps I used on my old phone are on here and working. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] grue@lemmy.world 18 points 3 months ago There are only a few companies that make the actual panels (regardless of how the finished TV or monitor was branded), and two of the biggest (LG and Samsung) are the worst offenders in terms of enshittification. It would not take much at all for the availability of new non-enshittified TVs and computer monitors to drop to literally zero. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Smoogs@lemmy.world 1 point 3 months ago (5 children) first on the list: linux. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] axh@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago (4 children) Your buying Linux? But honestly, I already switched on my PC and would like to switch to any open distro on my phone as well, but I'm worried that bank applications won't work on the "unofficial" system. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Smoogs@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago (2 children) you could just go browser mode. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] seriousslayerguy@lemmy.world 1 point 3 months ago (1 child) What about contactless payment/NFC? I don't think a browser allows that? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Smoogs@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago Dunno. That's your risky decision to do that. Not mine. permalink fedilink source parent [–] AlligatorBlizzard@sh.itjust.works 1 point 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) Quite a few banking apps work on Graphene OS. My bank isn't listed and it works on Graphene too (I really should contribute to that list). The big downside is probably having to buy a new phone for it but if you need to upgrade anyway it might be worth considering. The only app I've run into so far that didn't just work was the Target app but it works with a bit of tinkering. I've only been using Graphene on my phone for two weeks now but all of the apps I used on my old phone are on here and working. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] axh@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago (4 children) Your buying Linux? But honestly, I already switched on my PC and would like to switch to any open distro on my phone as well, but I'm worried that bank applications won't work on the "unofficial" system. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Smoogs@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago (2 children) you could just go browser mode. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] seriousslayerguy@lemmy.world 1 point 3 months ago (1 child) What about contactless payment/NFC? I don't think a browser allows that? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Smoogs@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago Dunno. That's your risky decision to do that. Not mine. permalink fedilink source parent [–] AlligatorBlizzard@sh.itjust.works 1 point 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) Quite a few banking apps work on Graphene OS. My bank isn't listed and it works on Graphene too (I really should contribute to that list). The big downside is probably having to buy a new phone for it but if you need to upgrade anyway it might be worth considering. The only app I've run into so far that didn't just work was the Target app but it works with a bit of tinkering. I've only been using Graphene on my phone for two weeks now but all of the apps I used on my old phone are on here and working. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Smoogs@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago (2 children) you could just go browser mode. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] seriousslayerguy@lemmy.world 1 point 3 months ago (1 child) What about contactless payment/NFC? I don't think a browser allows that? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Smoogs@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago Dunno. That's your risky decision to do that. Not mine. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] seriousslayerguy@lemmy.world 1 point 3 months ago (1 child) What about contactless payment/NFC? I don't think a browser allows that? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Smoogs@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago Dunno. That's your risky decision to do that. Not mine. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Smoogs@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago Dunno. That's your risky decision to do that. Not mine. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] AlligatorBlizzard@sh.itjust.works 1 point 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) Quite a few banking apps work on Graphene OS. My bank isn't listed and it works on Graphene too (I really should contribute to that list). The big downside is probably having to buy a new phone for it but if you need to upgrade anyway it might be worth considering. The only app I've run into so far that didn't just work was the Target app but it works with a bit of tinkering. I've only been using Graphene on my phone for two weeks now but all of the apps I used on my old phone are on here and working. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] THB@lemmy.world 9 points 3 months ago* (8 children) Seriously. I have an old LG plasma TV that I was planning to replace with an LG, but definitely not now. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] dethedrus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 3 months ago (4 children) I bought an LG TV last year. I has never been online and never will be. It gets served through a streaming box and that's all the info it gets. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] steelplatedmech@piefed.ca 6 points 3 months ago (2 children) The problem was you could do the right thing of keeping it offline, but that it used Windows to install unwanted software. Of course, solution is install Linux, but for the average user who decides to hook up their laptop and is using Windows they'd end up with unpleasant software installed. And it affected LG monitors too, which means Windows PC users were affected. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] dethedrus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 3 months ago (1 child) Realize that we're talking apples and oranges here (PC monitor vs TV). I was responding to someone about their invasive TV practices. I'm lazy and curmudgeonly on my PC, so it's running an IoT version of Windows 10 LTSC. No such shenanigans here. For now. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] steelplatedmech@piefed.ca 2 points 3 months ago To be extra safe you should do gpedit.msc -> Computer Configuration -> Administrative Templates -> System -> Device Installation -> Prevent automatic download of applications associated with metadata This is the type of stuff that leads to auto installs of applications such as logitech, razer, and in this case LG companion app. Can't really rely on ltsc, since it was utilizing Windows driver install process so any device that tries to do what LG did is a risk. Its why people with LG monitors found that app installed despite not having smart TV functionality. permalink fedilink source parent [–] frongt@lemmy.zip 0 points 3 months ago Same. I have no complaints about mine whatsoever. permalink fedilink source parent [–] ltxrtquq@lemmy.ml 5 points 3 months ago (2 children) I'm not sure there are any TV manufacturers that won't try to fill your screen with ads and track what you're watching, you just need to make sure your TV can't access the internet. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] BigDaddySlim@lemmy.world 6 points 3 months ago Sceptre makes dumb panels still, limited range of options but better than being spied on if you just need a replacement screen. permalink fedilink source parent [–] steelplatedmech@piefed.ca 3 points 3 months ago That isnt enough since even dumb displays like LG monitors used Windows itself to install unwanted software on people's PCs. Would have to actually disable that setting in Windows or use Linux. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] dethedrus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 3 months ago (4 children) I bought an LG TV last year. I has never been online and never will be. It gets served through a streaming box and that's all the info it gets. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] steelplatedmech@piefed.ca 6 points 3 months ago (2 children) The problem was you could do the right thing of keeping it offline, but that it used Windows to install unwanted software. Of course, solution is install Linux, but for the average user who decides to hook up their laptop and is using Windows they'd end up with unpleasant software installed. And it affected LG monitors too, which means Windows PC users were affected. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] dethedrus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 3 months ago (1 child) Realize that we're talking apples and oranges here (PC monitor vs TV). I was responding to someone about their invasive TV practices. I'm lazy and curmudgeonly on my PC, so it's running an IoT version of Windows 10 LTSC. No such shenanigans here. For now. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] steelplatedmech@piefed.ca 2 points 3 months ago To be extra safe you should do gpedit.msc -> Computer Configuration -> Administrative Templates -> System -> Device Installation -> Prevent automatic download of applications associated with metadata This is the type of stuff that leads to auto installs of applications such as logitech, razer, and in this case LG companion app. Can't really rely on ltsc, since it was utilizing Windows driver install process so any device that tries to do what LG did is a risk. Its why people with LG monitors found that app installed despite not having smart TV functionality. permalink fedilink source parent [–] frongt@lemmy.zip 0 points 3 months ago Same. I have no complaints about mine whatsoever. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] steelplatedmech@piefed.ca 6 points 3 months ago (2 children) The problem was you could do the right thing of keeping it offline, but that it used Windows to install unwanted software. Of course, solution is install Linux, but for the average user who decides to hook up their laptop and is using Windows they'd end up with unpleasant software installed. And it affected LG monitors too, which means Windows PC users were affected. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] dethedrus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 3 months ago (1 child) Realize that we're talking apples and oranges here (PC monitor vs TV). I was responding to someone about their invasive TV practices. I'm lazy and curmudgeonly on my PC, so it's running an IoT version of Windows 10 LTSC. No such shenanigans here. For now. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] steelplatedmech@piefed.ca 2 points 3 months ago To be extra safe you should do gpedit.msc -> Computer Configuration -> Administrative Templates -> System -> Device Installation -> Prevent automatic download of applications associated with metadata This is the type of stuff that leads to auto installs of applications such as logitech, razer, and in this case LG companion app. Can't really rely on ltsc, since it was utilizing Windows driver install process so any device that tries to do what LG did is a risk. Its why people with LG monitors found that app installed despite not having smart TV functionality. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] dethedrus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 3 months ago (1 child) Realize that we're talking apples and oranges here (PC monitor vs TV). I was responding to someone about their invasive TV practices. I'm lazy and curmudgeonly on my PC, so it's running an IoT version of Windows 10 LTSC. No such shenanigans here. For now. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] steelplatedmech@piefed.ca 2 points 3 months ago To be extra safe you should do gpedit.msc -> Computer Configuration -> Administrative Templates -> System -> Device Installation -> Prevent automatic download of applications associated with metadata This is the type of stuff that leads to auto installs of applications such as logitech, razer, and in this case LG companion app. Can't really rely on ltsc, since it was utilizing Windows driver install process so any device that tries to do what LG did is a risk. Its why people with LG monitors found that app installed despite not having smart TV functionality. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] steelplatedmech@piefed.ca 2 points 3 months ago To be extra safe you should do gpedit.msc -> Computer Configuration -> Administrative Templates -> System -> Device Installation -> Prevent automatic download of applications associated with metadata This is the type of stuff that leads to auto installs of applications such as logitech, razer, and in this case LG companion app. Can't really rely on ltsc, since it was utilizing Windows driver install process so any device that tries to do what LG did is a risk. Its why people with LG monitors found that app installed despite not having smart TV functionality. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] frongt@lemmy.zip 0 points 3 months ago Same. I have no complaints about mine whatsoever. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ltxrtquq@lemmy.ml 5 points 3 months ago (2 children) I'm not sure there are any TV manufacturers that won't try to fill your screen with ads and track what you're watching, you just need to make sure your TV can't access the internet. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] BigDaddySlim@lemmy.world 6 points 3 months ago Sceptre makes dumb panels still, limited range of options but better than being spied on if you just need a replacement screen. permalink fedilink source parent [–] steelplatedmech@piefed.ca 3 points 3 months ago That isnt enough since even dumb displays like LG monitors used Windows itself to install unwanted software on people's PCs. Would have to actually disable that setting in Windows or use Linux. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] BigDaddySlim@lemmy.world 6 points 3 months ago Sceptre makes dumb panels still, limited range of options but better than being spied on if you just need a replacement screen. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] steelplatedmech@piefed.ca 3 points 3 months ago That isnt enough since even dumb displays like LG monitors used Windows itself to install unwanted software on people's PCs. Would have to actually disable that setting in Windows or use Linux. permalink fedilink source parent