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[–] 9 points 3 months ago (28 children)

Wouldn't pirating kinda solve the issue? The fiction itself is not inherently bad and if you pirate you are not supporting the author. Normalize pirating harry potter stuff ig.

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Tell me if I am wrong tho i cannot really see dislikes.

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  • [–] 56 points 3 months ago (5 children)

    The argument goes that while pirating doesn't inherently support the author, continuing to participate in fandom perpetuates the cultural influence that the author has in society and can encourage others by proxy to go spend money on the author's work.

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  • [–] 5 points 3 months ago (4 children)

    I'm not participatiing in fandom by reading a book.

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  • [–] 4 points 3 months ago (2 children)

    We are all participating in fandom right now.

    Bad press is still press.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago (1 child)

    No, were participating in discussion around the books that even someone who hasn't read them could easily participate in.

    If bad press is still press then the OP shouldn't have done so, huh?

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  • [–] 0 points 3 months ago

    Sure, if you read a book and never tell anyone you did it you aren't participating in fandom. My point was more about people who continue to be "Harry Potter fans" and explicitly do participate in fandom (posting about it, writing fanfiction, whatever) despite not wanting to support Rowling.

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  • [–] 26 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    That works to an extent, as long as you aren't talking to your friends about the show, who might then go off and watch it somewhere that supports her.

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  • [–] 9 points 3 months ago

    Well I didn't consider that because I have no friends-

    Jokes aside that's fair lol. But like of you go to watch it somewhere that supports her it's kinda not pirating anymore. But I guess uou are more likely to do so if you already consume the content ig. I doubt anyone would in an scenario like this tho. But it is a big world ig.

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  • [–] 22 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (12 children)

    It's pretty bad. Remember how abolishing slavery is literally a running gag? Or his there's one character of every non-white ethnicity? Or the prose kinda sucked? Or how dumb the magic sport is? Or...

    Edit: if you want someone from the same place writing genuinely whimsical important meaningful bullshit wizard stories, try Pratchett's 'discworld' novels. They're far from perfect, but the author died of old while never being outed as a raging piece of shit, so I think you're safe. There's also one where all but one of the main characters turns out to be trans or in drag.

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  • [–] 14 points 3 months ago (2 children)

    Don't forget the names of the non-white characters are racist caricatures at best.

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  • [–] 7 points 3 months ago

    Caroline Easom did two videos on the women in the books, and makes a really good argument that Rowling doesn't really seem to like anyone but like, white men. She hates women, particularly women of colour.

    For example, you have Parwati and Padma Patel, who are basically the same character, filling the same role; being backup ladies that Harry and Ron to settle with bringing to the ball. The difference between them? One wears their hair a braid! Ooo.

    Hell, even Hermione who is ostensibly a main character is treated really poorly in the books.

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  • [–] 11 points 3 months ago

    It's pretty bad. Remember how abolishing slavery is literally a running gag?

    It's not just a running gag, but the one character who takes an issue with it is ridiculed for it.

    Honestly, it makes no sense that Harry is so relaxed about the slavery thing, he's also from a "muggle" background, and should be affected just as much as Hermione. Then again, he's a pretty insensitive prick, and shows very little care for the people around him.

    Then again, he is a trust-fund baby that grew up to be a cop. So... Guess all that is par for the course.


    They're far from perfect

    I don't believe in perfection, but Terry Pratchett's books are terrific.

    For an interesting and fairly recent magical school story, I'd recommend the Scholomance series by Naomi Novik, also known for His Majesty's Dragon, a historic fantasy series.

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  • [–] 11 points 3 months ago (4 children)

    I take issue with "they're far from perfect"

    Even the ones where you can see his early-onset Alzheimer's developing are excellent

    GNU Terry Pratchett

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  • [–] 5 points 3 months ago (3 children)

    The first two aren't spectacular. They're better than harry Potter, but they don't really pop.

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  • [–] 5 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

    I'll give you that. But .... Night Watch, Small Gods, Carpe Jugulum, The Amazing Maurice, Thud!

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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago

    I'd recommend the Kingkiller Chronicle (though many might disagree since the third book may never come out) for any adults who seem to be stuck on Harry Potter and want something that's actually good and not written for babies.

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  • [–] -1 points 3 months ago (4 children)

    I guess if you think it's cool to perpetuate the ideas of a bigoted pile of filth (no)

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  • [–] 3 points 3 months ago (3 children)

    What ideas? It' a genuine question I don't remember much about the story.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago (2 children)

    I just mean in general but theres also a whole slave species that nobody really talks about.

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