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I Don’t Think Trump’s Remaining Supporters Realize How Much They Are Despised By Non-MAGA Voters - Above the Law (abovethelaw.com)
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Early last week, I was at the Theodore Roosevelt Presidential Library for its first weekend. At the library itself, despite President Donald Trump inserting himself incongruously into the opening ceremonies, I did not see a single person sporting a Trump-branded clothing item.

The town of Medora, North Dakota, itself was, however, a different story. It wasn’t overwhelming. But for someone who lives in an urban center of a blue state, where even in the ruby red rural areas most people have become sufficiently shamed to shut up about their MAGA tendencies, a single errant MAGA cap is a rarity.

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[–] 6 points 3 months ago (16 children)

People are getting in ICE's face and filming their crimes at risk to ther lives for people they've never met.

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  • [–] -1 points 3 months ago (15 children)

    Good. They need to.

    Peaceful shutdown from at least 60% of the population in the metro areas would be better.

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  • [–] 6 points 3 months ago (14 children)

    When stuff like this happens, which it occasionally does, you're not going to know about it, because you do not live here. Our press is not going to report it, because we live under real fascism, not pretend fascism from TV.

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  • [–] 3 points 3 months ago (13 children)

    Again, not exactly true. I’ve seen some good protests. I saw ICE shoot people.

    So someone’s producing news. Not that it matters, we can’t change it, only US citizens can.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago (12 children)

    Well, no, actually, we probably can't. Hitler fell because of the Allied Forces, not because Jews and Poles banded together to beat him up.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 months ago (11 children)

    The thing with Hitler is that there’s a template to learn from.

    Hitler should have been dealt with a lot earlier than what he was. Hitler also governed a very different population and situation at the time. America isn’t where it is because it was held hostage by taxing war agreements and governed by oppressive outside influence…it’s a bunch of over indulgent and privileged arseholes being exploited.

    The Germans didn’t know what was coming really. American do, and not only that they gave it a trial run.

    The only similarities are the political ideology, not the countries themselves. Americans can still stop this if they want.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago (10 children)

    Trump won because the Electoral College thought a "strong Republican President" was "what the country needed." There is absolutely nothing I or anyone in my social class could have done to influence this decision.

    The difference between the Third Reich and America is that Germans had some small influence over who they elected in the form of votes that were actually counted.

    No, Americans in general cannot decide who the president is. Our presidential elections are theater and have been since slavery was abolished.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago (9 children)

    So if that’s the case, how did Biden manage to win? Did the Republicans let him?

    Did they let Clinton win?

    Nope, if enough turn out to vote, the US will get the president they want.

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  • [–] 0 points 3 months ago (8 children)

    Biden won because the electoral college wanted him to win. He belongs to the same social class as Trump.

    Yes, they let Clinton win.

    No, it doesn't matter who we vote for. The only options are their people, and then they get to disregard which of their people that we pick if they want to.

    "Voting won't help" isn't the same thing as giving up, but it is an acknowledgment of our reality.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago (7 children)

    Yeah honestly, this is just sad to watch. They won because they were elected. Like Mamdani.

    This is just snivelling stuff.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago (2 children)
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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago* (3 children)

    Mamdani wasn't running for president. You don't know how our government works.

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  • [–] -1 points 3 months ago (2 children)

    Mamdani proves that voting works.

    You know damn well I’m aware that he’s not a federal rep and you’re also aware of why I’m using him as an example. Stop trying to fudge the conversation because your argument is weak.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago (1 child)

    Voting for mayor or for local elections is a completely different process as opposed to voting for president. If you're voting for a mayoral or local election, your vote is directly counted (allegedly). That isn't the case for presidential elections.

    No, I have no idea why you're using Mamdani as an example. You clearly know less about how our government works than the average American. Please do some googling before returning to this conversation, I will not reply until you know what I'm talking about and can respond to what I'm actually saying to you.

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  • [–] 0 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

    It’s the same principle which still ends the same way.

    allegedly

    So you don’t know what you’re talking about?

    I have no idea

    I can do a crayon picture if you like…he won the primary based on getting more votes and did the same to win his election.

    Piss around with semantics all you want, the principle is the same and so is the process pretty much.

    You don’t want him used as an example because he disproves your point. That he’s not a federal rep makes no difference to that point, because it works for them too. As Biden proved.

    I couldn’t give a fuck if you don’t reply. Good, fuck off. One less Seppo bothering my day.

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