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[–] 24 points 3 months ago* (13 children)

Wage slavery whilst losing your rights, health, and quality of life (to the point life spans are getting SHORTER), is an example of a new kind of genocide.

Class based genocide of a whole society...

...and fascism like that has to be stopped, because it won't stop its self. It has to BE stopped. Not slowed down, or negotiated with. STOPPED.

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  • [–] [S] 11 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (12 children)

    I don't disagree but considering we've been speedrunning climate collapse and resource depletion for a good long while now, in about 25 to 30 years all this absolutely will stop itself because most of us will be dead.

    Click the spoiler if you want to find out some of the ways that's going to go down. Don't if you don't, idc.

    ::: spoiler spoiler


    90% of earths topsoil is at risk of depletion by 2050

    Global freshwater demand will exceed supply 40% by 2030

    Global human population has surpassed Earth’s sustainable carrying capacity.

    Global carbon emissions are still rising

    The latest CFSv2 model runs now show the Nino 3.4 SST anomaly forecast peaking at 4.10°C in November.

    The arctic sea ice extent is declining rapidly and we're likely headed into a Blue Ocean Event later this year, and potentially a double BOE depending on how the El Nino and summer in the southern hemisphere go.

    June 2026 came in as the second warmest on record since 1940 at 1.39°C above the 1850-1900 pre-industrial baseline, second only to 2024 at 1.50°C above the baseline

    The world is likely to exceed a key global warming target soon but the earths alebedo with the declining sea ice and lack of cloud cover will impact these numbers massively and isn't being predicted for, which means that 4.5c above the baseline by 2060 is now possible. :::

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  • [–] 4 points 3 months ago (9 children)

    Doomer talk.

    Not inaccurate, just what it will be labeled as.

    On a positive note, the BOE isn't the end of things. It's just a labeling of a new turning point. Whee.

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  • [–] [S] 4 points 3 months ago (8 children)

    A new turning point for the increased albedo, yeah.

    Ice reflects and absorbs heat by surface area, water does not reflect light as effectively and absorbs heat into the water.

    The energy it takes to turn 1g ice to 1g water, would heat that same 1g water to +80°C.

    A double BOE will be catastrophic.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 months ago (6 children)

    Does double BOE mean back to back years? I don't see how any following year wouldn't have a time of clear ocean after the first one can collect that energy. The BOE point from then on just gets longer and longer, until the waters stay open all year. I.e., there's only one BOE, and no going back.

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  • [–] [S] 4 points 3 months ago (5 children)

    Double means the north and south poles at the same time.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago* (4 children)

    Antartica's ice will be present even in a hothouse Earth, at least for a millennia. That's a lot of ice. And there's no "ocean", just the surrounding waters that don't freeze in the same way as the Arctic. We are about to get some action though from the Thwaites glacier, so that will be fun.

    Granted, its surrounding waters and refrigerator action does influence the weather and current systems in its own way, but is different.

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  • [–] [S] 2 points 3 months ago* (3 children)

    The Blue Ocean Event is about the sea ice extent. Here's another link to another interactive map showing the ice extent at the poles. It's not looking so great.

    Thwaites is going to be interesting to see the impact of, however grusome that is to admit.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 months ago (2 children)

    Agreed on all that, but you should look at your first link, as it makes my point. The BOE is literally an Arctic event. The only mention of Antarctica is the ice sheet collapses (there and Greenland) which will be long after the first BOE. Fun fact, when the Arctic loses enough cooling power from lack of ice, Greenland will take over as the main driver of the weather in the northern hemisphere, and it being much offset from the rotational axis should provide very interesting weather side effects. So much for stability.

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  • [–] [S] 1 point 3 months ago* (1 child)
  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago

    I'm all for learning new things. I don't think the usage here of BOE is correct. Number one, how does one measure extent on the Antarctica ice coverage? I realize they do measure the ice amount and it's low, but because it's not in an enclosed area it's a bit different, as is the water heating as the ice disappears. More important in that case is how the ice in the sea prevents ice loss from the land (as in with Thwaites) and how that will impact sea level rise, much like Greenland's losses.

    Also, none of the charts show an extent area coverage of the Antarctic, so I don't think it's a thing except in trying to tie in with the Arctic BOE and how they are both intertwined and going to affect the overall global condition.

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