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[+] -23 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (19 children)

Because they were spaniards, genius. It was a large field with people from both sides.

They didn't even celebrate in the stadium so I don't know why I was surprised.

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  • [–] 11 points 3 months ago (18 children)

    Can confirm. I watched in Spain and no one celebrated. Few people watched and after the final whistle they clapped and went home. It was one of the calmest nights I've seen. /s

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  • [+] -10 points 3 months ago (17 children)

    Watch a video from 2022 and then rewatch videos from last night. If you can't see the difference, I would go to an ophtalmologist.

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  • [–] 5 points 3 months ago (7 children)

    I can see you're very proud of how your people celebrate football but, as I told you in another thread, it's probably more toned down in Spain simply because people have more things to celebrate than just football. I'm sure that if Spain lived in constant crisis for 40 years and with bleak outlooks for the future and without any World Cup since 1986 they would also lose their minds. Spain currently holds European Championship, female World Championship and won last World Cup 16 years ago. So yeah, they celebrated the normal amount.

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  • [–] -2 points 3 months ago (6 children)

    Nope, it's relsted to the culture itself. If you'd ever actually met an argentinian or visited argentina you'd know this.

    without any World Cup since 1986 they would also lose their minds

    Dude, when it comes to football Spain was born in 2010.

    Spain currently holds European Championship

    Good for them. Argentina won their last two america cups.

    female World Championship

    No disrespect but I couldn't care less about that and I doubt spaniards care that much about it either.

    won last World Cup 16 years ago

    We won 4 years ago. Does that mean that if we'd won our 5th consecutive title we should've celebrated a negative amount? Like be angry because we won? Wth is that logic xD

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  • [–] 3 points 3 months ago (5 children)

    Yes, yes. Argentina is the best country in the world, everyone is jealous and wishes they lived there. It's true Europe has way higher purchasing power, way less crime, better infrastructure, health care and education but we would trade it all for the ability to celebrate football wins real hard. If we only could celebrate our World Cup like they do in Argentina once every 40 years we would be so much happier. Such envy. Much sadness.

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  • [–] -3 points 3 months ago* (4 children)

    higher purchasing power

    Depends on the specific country

    way less crime

    There's actually less crime than in several european countries. Including spain.

    education

    Argentina as a whole, probably true. I was lucky enough to be born in s city with top notch free public schools but in a lot of cities that's not the case.

    we would trade it all for the ability to celebrate football wins real hard

    The difference is palpable in daily life, not just football. You could also have both if you had some blood in your veins. But hey, you do you.

    Argentina is the best country in the world

    You're damn right it is.

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  • [–] 3 points 3 months ago (3 children)

    I was actually feeling sorry for you before the game and wouldn't mind Argentina winning but your delusions convinced me you didn't actually deserved to win. I'm so glad you didn't 😂

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  • [–] -3 points 3 months ago (2 children)

    A) Don't need your pity.

    B) Everything I said is pretty easy to confirm.

    C) A single person determines how you view an entire country? That's a G if I've ever seen one xD

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  • [–] 3 points 3 months ago (8 children)

    .... The ones where they destroyed half of Buenos aires?

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  • [–] -2 points 3 months ago (7 children)

    Nothing was destroyed. What are you talking about? You're thinking of france in 2018.

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  • [–] -2 points 3 months ago (5 children)

    Ok, maybe some things were destroyed xD

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  • [–] 3 points 3 months ago (4 children)

    Ooopsie whooopsie, maybe we did do a riotcito.

    🤭

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  • [–] 2 points 3 months ago (2 children)

    Things do happen, I'm not saying riots are an Argentinian thing, every fucking time the Vancouver Canucks reach the Stanley cup finals they riot like idiots; but what you presented was denialism and then not an admission of error but brushing it off. It wasn't "nothing happens, whoops, something did happen" two fucking people died because you guys won the world cup.

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  • [–] -1 points 3 months ago* (1 child)

    Uhm you know how they died right? They weren't killed. One guy fell through the roof of a building and another got choked to death with an argentinian flag while riding a motorcycle (it got caught in the wheels or something). Both died out of neglect, not violence. Several of the injured also got injured for the same reason.

    It wasn't a "riot" it was a celebration that got out of hand.

    What did you think happened?

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  • [–] 2 points 3 months ago*

    So let's re contextualise. You criticised the spanish fans for not celebrating like the argentinians. We said that you guys celebrate by destroying things; and it's not just you guys that do this, but in this conversation, we are highlighting things that actually happen in argentina.

    Thus, your argument went like this :

    You :We celebrate the best!

    Us : There are riots when you celebrate

    You : Nothing bad happened

    Us : Here's reports of literal, death, destruction , injury and people being arrested because you guys rioted.

    You : These things happen, it's ok.

    Us : Things getting out of control to the point where people die is not a healthy or sane way to celebrate an event :

    You : No, but you see, they weren't killed, they died because they were reckless.

    Like, have some fucking self respect and reflect on what is going on with your views and country. It's not normal for people to be like this. It's a fucking disgrace when the Vancouver Canucks fans do it, and it's a fucking disgrace when the Argentina fans do it, and it's a disgrace when french fans do it.

    It's up to the people of those regions to say "This behaviour is unacceptable" and to seek to create a culture where these things are not seen as acceptable. Not to say "it's just the lads having a laugh".

    The Irish are a fucking delight everywhere they go for sporting events. They make the environment better, everyone happier and even FIX SHIT. Do you want to make the argument that the IRISH fans are doing this shit while sober? The Japanese fans clean up the entire fucking stadium, and I assume they are more sober.

    Why don't you want yourself and your people to aspire to be more like that, instead of like the fucking Vancouverite thugs?

    I'm not Spanish, I'm not English, in Turkey, a long running comedy sketch show was all about sketches on the state of the economy and lives of the people, and frankly begging everyone from all layers of society to be better. You guys seriously need that kind of attitude adjustment. You can take this thread, which means a lot to you, since you posted non-stop all day in here as free entertainment for us salt miners, as a heads up to help make your own culture and people better, or you can just continue your path of denial and idiocy.

    And you know what, more for us. Just keep Milei, Peter Thiel and the Kirchnerists to yourself.

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