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[–] 29 points 1 year ago (34 children)

6 years doesn’t seem like much. The article says that this joker is a big time serial offender.

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  • [–] 15 points 1 year ago (10 children)

    He's lucky to have gotten anything. Usually you can kill people in a car and get away without any charge.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago (9 children)

    Based !fuckcars@lemmy.world enjoyer?

    May I also interest you in: https://www.standards.org.au/news/revised-standard-recommends-larger-parking-bays-across-the-country

    Luckily, they got massive backlash, and haven't yet actually updated the standard after almost 2 years since.

    I'm gonna be really angry if they do increase parking bay sizes.

    Gotta love urban sprawl

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (5 children)

    They should have dedicated truck parking. Have all these fuckers with body image issues all park together away from the normal people.

    Let them have their 3495kg vehicles, but have them park with all the other legitimate trucks and make them walk the extra distance to the shops.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    I vote we don't do that because it's taking up valuable space that creates urban sprawl. We already have dedicated truck parking (as in, actual trucks, not oversized utes & SUVs) in places where they're needed for deliveries.

    Utes have fit in regular parking spots for decades. We should just say - no, these oversize utes/SUVs just can't be bought.

    Have you ever wondered why you even need a car to pop to the shops?

    Because we've designed our cities around cars. (Unless you live in the CBD or other dense pockets in this country where you can literally just go downstairs. Weekly shop? What's that?).

    Let's not have them park anywhere (in my opinion).

    Make them buy a real vehicle, not one for emotional support.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (3 children)

    I do agree with you, but as long as these loopholes exist, there must be an alternative.

    That said, it is amusing driving through certain housing estates where there is one normal-sized car in the driveway; which is being blocked in by the Dodge Ram that is too big to fit in the driveway.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago* (2 children)

    but as long as these loopholes exist, there must be an alternative

    The current alternative is pretty funny, if you live in a council who's really strict about parking.

    It's really hilarious when people park like wankers in Melbourne CBD because there's an online form you can fill out to sic the parking inspectors on them really quickly depending how busy they are.

    I've done it multiple times to people parking in the car-share dedicated spots. It's always Teslas, BMWs, Mercedes.

    Though, now we've had this conversation, I'll keep an eye out for oversized car parking too.

    Them when they get the fine: wHaT dO tHeY eXpEcT mE tO Do?

    Buy literally any other ute/van that easily fits in the spots.

    I'm a bastard haha, I can't wait.

    Why I think we should do literally nothing to accommodate this ridiculous vehicles, accommodation is a precedent they will come to expect and feel entitled to.

    People already feel entitled to large roads, and right of way for cars. Let's not give them a single mm.

    That said, it is amusing driving through certain housing estates where there is one normal-sized car in the driveway; which is being blocked in by the Dodge Ram that is too big to fit in the driveway.

    I suppose they're doing their best haha

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    A lawyer in Canberra killed a cyclist by driving too fast on an exit ramp and missing the road on three inside of the curve where the cycle lane is and where a cyclist was.

    He was speeding, was likely drunk as he neither sought help for the cyclist nor turned himself in for several hours after the collision. All in all he was about the worst case of recklessly injuring someone and carelessly leaving them to die

    He was fined a twenty thousandth of his salary

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago

    If we're talking about Canberra, wait 'til you hear about Mike Hall. His killer didn't face any punishment despite driving an unroadworthy vehicle and obviously not paying attention, to be able to not notice a cyclist in reflective clothing on a straight wide road. He was also probably speeding, but police used an outdated method of estimating speed which declared he wasn't speeding.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (22 children)

    Death penalty seems like a fair sentence for a piece of shit like him

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago (8 children)

    Jesus fluffing christ mate, calm down.

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  • [–] 0 points 1 year ago (7 children)

    "Ohhhh calm down, they only killed someone!" That's what you sound like. Would you be ready to be the next victim of a reckless driver? If not, shut the fuck up, apologist

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago* (6 children)

    I'm not apologising for shit, I just don't believe in the fluffing death penalty. I do firmly believe that perpetrators of vehicular manslaughter should never be able to hold a license again as part of their sentence, so that kinda solves your hypothetical.

    Edit: Let me remind you that the punishment for first degree murder in Victoria is only 30 years. I'd prefer to err on the side of leniency than end up like the US.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Many criminals still drive even without a licence. Taking someone's licence does not always solve the problem.

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  • [–] 0 points 1 year ago* (2 children)

    AND THE DEATH PENALTY IS THE SOLUTION TO THAT?!

    Edit: That has the same energy as "Criminals will keep stealing bread, so let's send them to a land far, far away from here." Like, the punishment has to fit the crime.

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  • [–] 0 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    You can say "fuck" here. You don't need to puss out on that. But, you're pussing out on actually punishing blatant disregard for human life so I'm not holding my breath for that. If you want to have manslaughterers released to live amongst decent people you better not cry if you get disabled by a reckless driver

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (11 children)

    I feel people suffer more with life in prison, because I hope most of them will come to a realization of what they did and have to suffer. Too bad there's no hard labor.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago

    Fuck suffering. The system should be focused first on rehabilitation and second on seperating the person from society so they can't harm others.

    The infliction of suffering does nothing to help society at all. It just creates horribly broken people in prisons and encouraging hate outside.

    If someone can't be rehabilitated I see no issue in providing a comfortable isolated environment for them. Hell, give them whatever drugs they want too, who cares, just keep them away from society.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    Laws do not exist to punish the guilty, or provide retribution for victims. They are there to create a baseline of acceptable behaviour.

    The old adage “the punishment should fit the crime” applies here. The object is to make the criminal remorseful and to understand that violating the law has consequences.

    The death penalty does act as a deterrent, (for other people as well), as does Exile (transportation for stealing a load of bread). A sentence of life in prison does not act as a deterrent, nor does a pittance of a fine.

    Having to pay restitution to the victim (lost income due to disability or loss of a breadwinner; pain and suffering) will have an effect for those who can afford it.

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  • [–] -1 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    So you'd want to pay for their upkeep. You do that, I'm not giving one cent for pieces of shit that don't deserve an another chance

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Luckily for us, most of society (in Australia, at least) disagrees with you.

    The death penalty is barbaric, and has had many, many, many cases of being committed on innocent people in the US.

    The justice system isn't omnipotent, it's just humans, afterall. Why yes, let's make the consequence for getting it wrong death, that seems logical /s

    This guy is a piece of shit, and in my opinion deserves more than 6 years of prison and a lifetime ban on operating any motor vehicle (or any heavy machinery full stop), but killing him?

    This isn't Gilead, and eye for an eye is not most Australians values.

    Part of living in a society is paying taxes, and some of those taxes will go to things you don't personally like, but society does (corruption, lobbying and inefficient notwithstanding).

    And society has decided we're living in 2025, not the middle ages. We don't kill people. We aspire to giving people a second chance. In the grand scheme of things, prisons represent a tiny fraction of Australia's budget.

    I'd say it's totally worth it if it means people's family members aren't being killed for doing something illegal.

    There are some cases where the person is question is irredeemable, but I see this as the "cost of doing business" so to speak.

    It's the same reason we have innocent until proven guilty, better to let some guilty people walk free than lock up innocent people. And better to let some awful people live, rather than accidentally kill someone who doesn't deserve it.

    There's a reason most civilised countries don't have the death penalty anymore.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

    kill them and kill them now

    [Edit: mod removed your comment, which I think is a pity. How am I supposed to debate you?]

    I'm hoping you're not saying this in real life. Probably getting a lotta these 👀 after nuggets of wisdom like that.

    You think a piece of shit like that will ever reintegrate? They sent tens of texts while driving

    Why are you so sure they're incapable of being rehabilitated? Humans are just black and white to you?

    Are you ready to have one of your family be killed by a texting driver?

    I'm sure as hell that the death penalty would do practically nothing to solve road deaths. Considering the US is far worse than us in road deaths, and they have the death penalty. It's almost like we shouldn't design our cities around everyone being required to drive :O

    This obviously doesn't absolve this arsehole of blame here. He's clearly done the wrong thing, and deserves punishment and years (more than he received) in prison. But it's just not the Australian way to kill criminals. Even for murder.

    Anyway. I would strongly suggest you keep your pro-death penalty stance online only (your opinion, while I disagree with you, very strongly, is welcomed here. Online).

    This all assumes you live in Australia, or basically anywhere in the developed world other than the US.

    People will judge you, rightly, in my opinion.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (1 child)

    I'll judge you for defending a murdering piece of shit like him, and justly. Be ready to die by someone texting while driving all you want, I'd rather see the death penalty for actions like his. No excuse to be so blatantly negligent

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    You simply don't understand why most people in this country are against the death penalty.

    I'm not defending his actions whatsoever, even want to see his sentence extended.

    If you'd like to actually read my position as to why I, and most of this country (though perhaps not for the same reasons as me) are against the death penalty, you will see you're being a bit dishonest by saying I'm defending him.

    You've literally just repeated the same thing twice.

    And it looks like you don't want to actually engage in an honest defence as to why society should have the death penalty.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Just fyi, if cost is your concern, it costs more to give someone the death penalty than life in gaol.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    It's literally one less mouth to feed and house. Would you be ready to be the next victim of a reckless driver? Maybe you could give them food and shelter, I really hope no tax dollars go to the upkeep of a manslaughterer

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