▲ 227 ▼ You Know About Flock Cameras, Meet Nema Nodes: They Turn Streetlights Into A Surveillance Network (www.gadgetreview.com) submitted 3 months ago by XLE@piefed.social to c/privacy@lemmy.world 32 comments fedilink hide all child comments Standardized NEMA sockets let municipalities add cameras and air sensors to existing poles with no public vote or new hardware
[–] impairedimperator@lemmy.zip 1 point 3 months ago (7 children) Plugging in IoT shit. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] XLE@piefed.social [S] 2 points 3 months ago (6 children) I'm impressed, I half expected you to say it provided the lights. Now, do you understand the difference between a state-run network of IoT devices along roads versus a socket in your own home? Is the government allowed to install a surveillance device in both equally? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] impairedimperator@lemmy.zip 1 point 3 months ago (5 children) Yes, I understand that. I also understand now that you completely missed my point even with the simpler explanation. I...don't think there will be a productive outcome here. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] XLE@piefed.social [S] 1 point 3 months ago (4 children) You were just telling me how that outlet in my home is effectively identical to the outlet on a government controlled street. If I were you, I'd want to quit talking, too. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] impairedimperator@lemmy.zip 1 point 3 months ago (3 children) It literally is. Unless you're violating building code by not using NEMA outlets. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] XLE@piefed.social [S] 1 point 3 months ago (2 children) You think the government is putting mesh surveillance networks in the outlets in your house too, or are you able to identify a difference here? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] impairedimperator@lemmy.zip 1 point 3 months ago (1 child) It could. Same way they could put them into lampposts. Like the article says. Maybe try reading the article next time permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] XLE@piefed.social [S] 1 point 3 months ago The same way? Fascinating! Tell me how the the State walks into your home exactly as easily as they do a city street. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] XLE@piefed.social [S] 2 points 3 months ago (6 children) I'm impressed, I half expected you to say it provided the lights. Now, do you understand the difference between a state-run network of IoT devices along roads versus a socket in your own home? Is the government allowed to install a surveillance device in both equally? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] impairedimperator@lemmy.zip 1 point 3 months ago (5 children) Yes, I understand that. I also understand now that you completely missed my point even with the simpler explanation. I...don't think there will be a productive outcome here. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] XLE@piefed.social [S] 1 point 3 months ago (4 children) You were just telling me how that outlet in my home is effectively identical to the outlet on a government controlled street. If I were you, I'd want to quit talking, too. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] impairedimperator@lemmy.zip 1 point 3 months ago (3 children) It literally is. Unless you're violating building code by not using NEMA outlets. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] XLE@piefed.social [S] 1 point 3 months ago (2 children) You think the government is putting mesh surveillance networks in the outlets in your house too, or are you able to identify a difference here? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] impairedimperator@lemmy.zip 1 point 3 months ago (1 child) It could. Same way they could put them into lampposts. Like the article says. Maybe try reading the article next time permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] XLE@piefed.social [S] 1 point 3 months ago The same way? Fascinating! Tell me how the the State walks into your home exactly as easily as they do a city street. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] impairedimperator@lemmy.zip 1 point 3 months ago (5 children) Yes, I understand that. I also understand now that you completely missed my point even with the simpler explanation. I...don't think there will be a productive outcome here. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] XLE@piefed.social [S] 1 point 3 months ago (4 children) You were just telling me how that outlet in my home is effectively identical to the outlet on a government controlled street. If I were you, I'd want to quit talking, too. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] impairedimperator@lemmy.zip 1 point 3 months ago (3 children) It literally is. Unless you're violating building code by not using NEMA outlets. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] XLE@piefed.social [S] 1 point 3 months ago (2 children) You think the government is putting mesh surveillance networks in the outlets in your house too, or are you able to identify a difference here? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] impairedimperator@lemmy.zip 1 point 3 months ago (1 child) It could. Same way they could put them into lampposts. Like the article says. Maybe try reading the article next time permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] XLE@piefed.social [S] 1 point 3 months ago The same way? Fascinating! Tell me how the the State walks into your home exactly as easily as they do a city street. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] XLE@piefed.social [S] 1 point 3 months ago (4 children) You were just telling me how that outlet in my home is effectively identical to the outlet on a government controlled street. If I were you, I'd want to quit talking, too. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] impairedimperator@lemmy.zip 1 point 3 months ago (3 children) It literally is. Unless you're violating building code by not using NEMA outlets. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] XLE@piefed.social [S] 1 point 3 months ago (2 children) You think the government is putting mesh surveillance networks in the outlets in your house too, or are you able to identify a difference here? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] impairedimperator@lemmy.zip 1 point 3 months ago (1 child) It could. Same way they could put them into lampposts. Like the article says. Maybe try reading the article next time permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] XLE@piefed.social [S] 1 point 3 months ago The same way? Fascinating! Tell me how the the State walks into your home exactly as easily as they do a city street. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] impairedimperator@lemmy.zip 1 point 3 months ago (3 children) It literally is. Unless you're violating building code by not using NEMA outlets. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] XLE@piefed.social [S] 1 point 3 months ago (2 children) You think the government is putting mesh surveillance networks in the outlets in your house too, or are you able to identify a difference here? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] impairedimperator@lemmy.zip 1 point 3 months ago (1 child) It could. Same way they could put them into lampposts. Like the article says. Maybe try reading the article next time permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] XLE@piefed.social [S] 1 point 3 months ago The same way? Fascinating! Tell me how the the State walks into your home exactly as easily as they do a city street. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] XLE@piefed.social [S] 1 point 3 months ago (2 children) You think the government is putting mesh surveillance networks in the outlets in your house too, or are you able to identify a difference here? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] impairedimperator@lemmy.zip 1 point 3 months ago (1 child) It could. Same way they could put them into lampposts. Like the article says. Maybe try reading the article next time permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] XLE@piefed.social [S] 1 point 3 months ago The same way? Fascinating! Tell me how the the State walks into your home exactly as easily as they do a city street. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] impairedimperator@lemmy.zip 1 point 3 months ago (1 child) It could. Same way they could put them into lampposts. Like the article says. Maybe try reading the article next time permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] XLE@piefed.social [S] 1 point 3 months ago The same way? Fascinating! Tell me how the the State walks into your home exactly as easily as they do a city street. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] XLE@piefed.social [S] 1 point 3 months ago The same way? Fascinating! Tell me how the the State walks into your home exactly as easily as they do a city street. permalink fedilink source parent