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Mod goes insane after I downvoted a few posts, goes off on me in DMs (lemmy.zip)
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I downvoted maybe half a dozen posts. They were all right-wing bullshit and I realized that's all the user has ever posted so I got out of there. The next day I see more of his junk and go to downvote but can't because I'm banned.

Sure it was a dick move to poke the bear about his lifestyle of only posting things that get downvoted, but he. Went. OFF!

Accusing me of alts, thinking I'm obsessed with him, message after message... I probably have more in my inbox right now but stitching this image together took long enough.

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[–] 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (6 children)

Welp, I just got home from work, and I had a rough day, so I can't stop myself from replying. I'll do just this one and log off the fediverse for the night.

If you look at the profile of the user you're replying to, at the top you'll see they made themselves a banner showing off how other people despise them. This could be a good thing if the people they were bragging about were like... nazis. But this individual has a reputation and they really, really earned it.

If you search 'Universal Monk' on the fediverse, you'll get this at the top, "I'm Calling For the Fediverse to Ban Universal Monk." It does a deep dive of their other accounts. A lot of what they're doing in this thread is claiming that they're super open and honest about who they are (and they're on an account they've curated to not be such a douche canoe) which means you have to look at the other accounts to see what the deal is.

Here's a link to a call to action on slrpnk calling to ban UM. The post isn't interesting- the comments are. And after seeing how people make a game out of figuring out the rules of a place specifically so they can be as obnoxious as possible without copping a ban, seeing this behavior in the wild and recognizing it for what it is, sets my teeth on edge. (This is where I would move to the section to talk about evidence of puppetry and such, but I'm choosing not to hyperfocus on this.)

ETA: Okay I couldn't help myself. I added a bit in a paragraph above, but here is a fantastic bit. This is a comment from auk. It's under the second link. I'm copy and pasting the relevant bit here. (Auk is speaking to UM.)

You did know you were being obnoxious previously, and refused to stop doing it until it escalated to an account ban, and then made some new accounts and started looking for new places to do it.

I think admins and mods those new places can make the decision about whether that is ban evasion, or whether they want to let you do this all again until you inevitably get banned again sometime later. People have talked with you about why what you’re doing is a problem. Why they would pick that second option is something of a mystery to me, but I’ll leave it up to them. I’m just relaying the information.

It would be a different story if you were just misunderstanding something, and completely open to a conversation about why you keep getting banned and what you can do differently, but you’re clearly more interested in figuring out the details of the rules so you can find ways around them and keep doing your same thing.

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  • [–] 0 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    Might be time to re-evaluate now that some time has passed? Sure seems like someone with a grudge against UM created accounts to stir the pot and make them look (very) bad.

    Your evidence here doesn't seem that compelling. The egregious stuff - posting from Breitbart et al, antagonistic trolling comment chains - doesn't match UM's conduct anywhere else (suggesting the troll-created-accounts theory for those instances of bad behavior).

    And the non-egregious stuff (e.g. having multiple accounts for different instances (I do that) and posting to a community from one, not realizing another account had been bot-banned there) - those seem like the kind of missteps any average person would make under a crazy scenario like this.

    I mean, what's the alternative theory? It was all UM, and they have since COMPLETELY cleaned up their act...so they can do what? More stuff like that someday in the future? That's a lotta pretty sincere effort for a long time, why bother? Anyone trying to attack and disrupt the Lemmyverse from an ideology/propaganda standpoint would just create new accounts. This sure seems to me like a normal-ass person who just wants to keep their account name and isn't willing to be bullied off of it.

    To be honest, you come across as the vindictive unreasonable one at this point. Not tryna be a jerk, I was curious about all this so I looked at everything you posted, and I came away feeling like you really ought to just move on. Feels like an unhealthy and inaccurate hangup you're holding onto. But hey I'm just some stranger on the Internet lol, feel free to tell me to go fuck myself, all good!

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    You're entitled to your feelings. Doesn't bother me one bit.

    I can remember what I've seen and share my opinions on it, same as anybody else. I wouldn't call that an "unhealthy hangup" so much as "remembering why you don't care for someone."

    Now, could I continue to make this case? Sure. Could I provide evidence? Absolutely. But I am not going to hyperfocus on this, I'm not interested in running a crusade, and I don't owe anybody here anything.

    I think that would be unhealthy.

    Besides, several people here have gone forth with the impression to let someone have a fresh start. That's a valid way to want to live. I can't do that, but I won't try and step on other people trying to believe in the good in people.

    If you think I'm an asshole for saying someone has a reputation that they earned, that's fine. If you think I'm an asshole for saying I think sharing an instance with them is cringe, that's fine, too. I don't regret making an attempt at finding someone else saying something I would say, and sharing that, because it wastes as little of my time on an issue as possible.

    The more I dig in on something, the higher the risk of hyperfixation on it, and there is nothing to be gained here by anyone if I hyperfixate on why I dislike someone.

    I'm trying to engage in this discussion, but do it as lightly as possible, which is why I'm only replying to one reply I get at a time in this thread and move on. (I responded to yours this time. I'll be ignoring all others here for the rest of the night.)

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  • [–] -4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

    Thank you! Why would I create two personas that post from totally opposite sides of the political spectrum? If I were actually conservative, why would I post literally hundreds of pro-socialist, pro-union, pro-piracy, pro-anarchism articles? Pro-socialist book reviews. etc. I'm working on getting socialist party more involved in my local union activities. I was part of a union my entire career.

    So my motive is to be secretly conservative while I publicly post articles all over Lemmy that are anti-capitalist, pro-socialist, pro-union? Even using Lemmy-logic, I don't get how people think that I am some super conservative operative. lol

    And to your point, even if all the nonsense about me were true, anyone can look at my post history and see that all I do is post anti-capitalist, pro-socialist, pro-union stuff now (always did, but still...), so shouldn't people be happy they have converted such a terrible conservative to their side? My post history is public, and dates are on there too.

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  • [–] -5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

    which means you have to look at the other accounts to see what the deal is.

    What other accounts? My other main lemmy account was https://sh.itjust.works/u/UniversalMonk account. Posts are public there too.

    And I recently started https://feddit.online/u/UniversalMonk And posts are public there too. I also have a xander science one. and I was on vegantheory before it closed down.

    All are socialist-oriented and/or third party oriented. My posts and profile for .world is still up to.

    Are you forgetting that everyone on .world was mad because I advocated third-party voting BEFORE the election. Back when it was traitorous to say so on Lemmy? It's cool now, but def wasn't cool to advocate third-party then.

    So what alts are you referring to?! I've always advocated third-party voting and always said the duopoly sucks. I mention it in all of my profiles too.

    The reason for the alts I mentioned is because you never know when an instance will shut down. Lemm.ee the 2nd or 3rd biggest instance is shutting down. Pefect example. And I used to be on lemm.ee too. profile is public there too.

    Here’s a link to a call to action on slrpnk calling to ban UM.

    Yep, and they gave in to the mob-rule and banned me. But look at every single post i made on slrpnk. Socialist or solar oriented. The mod actually reached out before he banned me, gave me the reasons (the mob-ruling people) and offered me time to switch my stuff over. So I have no ill-will for slrpnk whatsoever. They were totally cool about it.

    I have a special place in my heart for disliking people who account-hop

    Again, see the lemm.ee instance shutting down. The vast majority of my posts are from here and st.justworks. Both histories are public.

    All you are saying is that people don't like me. Ok. We know that. I KNOW that people don't like me because I didn't vote for Biden/Harris/Trump. I have always said they are the same. And I always will. Proud of the fact that I advocated for third party then, before it was well-accepted.

    I don't wanna turn this into a political thing, but let's face it. That's why you and others are mad at me: I didn't vote for Biden/Harris/Trump and was open about it.

    Now having said all that. I have nothing to do with OP. OP isn't banned from any of my communities. You all turned this in to a UM fest, I am merely defending myself.

    ALL my posts from every instance I have been on are public. People are fine not to like me because I don't worship the teet of the capitalist duopoly. Cool!

    But don't go around making up shit that's not true like that I'm the guy who banned OP. I have never even heard of OP until this post today. Enough people hate me for real reason, people don't have to make up stuff. (not meaning YOU specifically, I mean the others talking about alts that aren't me.)

    Also thanks for your posts about threads to ban me. I AM proud of those, because they show in black and white, for all to see, the mob-rule bullying that happens to people who aren't exactly doing what you want. That's why they are also in my profile graphic. I'm not trolling, I'm wearing the mob-rule madness as a badge because I'm glad I stood up to you all then, and standing up to you all now.

    But I got nothing to do with OP's situation. I think this is all going off topic, and people should just concentrate on OP's complaint.

    Also the AUK you are talking about uses a bot to ban from his community regardless of if you've never voted there, or posted there. The mod logs are full of his bot bans/unbans.

    The admin during that conversation disagreed with him.

    In fact, I'm not banned from that dude's comm. I checked just now. lol

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