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[–] 2 points 4 months ago (6 children)

I refuse to call social engineers hackers, conmen is more fitting.

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  • [–] 7 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    You can refuse to call them hackers, everyone is entitled to be wrong about something.

    Kevin Mitnick was a prolific hacker who used social engineering regularly to infiltrate, and hackers still do today. Humans are a massive weak point in any org, that's why we have to take quarterly training not to be a moron and let someone into our network through doing something stupid.

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  • [–] -1 points 3 months ago

    Mitnick was also a hacker, but I never considered his social engineering feats as hacking themselves. They were definitely what let him accomplish his goals though and I consider those skills adjacent, just like lock picking. If you see someone picking a lock, I doubt your brain says "OMG a hacker!".

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  • [–] 9 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    Defcon would disagree. I've watched so many presenters talk about all forms of penetration testing, many of which used social engineering and lockpicking as a way to create exploitable vulnerabilities in networks. Whether or not you care to call them hackers... It doesn't really matter, won't stop them from hacking.

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