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just realized whoogle is dead now (lemmy.today)
submitted 4 months ago by to c/selfhosted@lemmy.world
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google search results are still kind of useful especially for non-english language queries, anyone knows a good alternative?

searxng also doesn't really seem to work these days..

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[–] 51 points 4 months ago (20 children)

The modern internet is getting filthier by the day. Gone are the days where independent software used to be a thing I suppose.

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  • [–] 8 points 4 months ago (4 children)

    Oh, idk. The entire internet and supporting infrastructure pretty much runs on opensourced software. When you're talking about a search engine tho, unless you have a data center, a huge pile of cash, and a willingness to part with most of it, search engines are expensive to run.

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  • [–] 5 points 4 months ago (3 children)

    We're going to have a lot of data centres sitting idle when the AI bubble bursts.

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  • [–] 0 points 4 months ago

    They'll get retooled just like all past, unsuccessful technology. However, I am curious why idle data centers would cause you heartburn. That cycle is not only relegated to realm of internet related technology. That happens throughout all levels.

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago*

    A few months ago before joined lemmy I said to my friends and family, we're going to see an open-source revolution where people are going to start going in on community based ideas. There's nothing like it either.

    Coming together to make an open source project happen is one of those things that makes my back do that happy drippy feeling because everyone gets a say and their input is heard plus a lot of people who give their input aren't even looking for a pay, nonetheless want to be credited unless were hands-on with a project (like a coder).

    Every single thing that's open source is for the people. Everything that is closed is for the greedy ass corporations.

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  • [+] -7 points 4 months ago (13 children)

    Hear me out. From day one we all needed to collectively reject any effort to make any profit online. I don't care if you built something cool, sold furry art or create some neat SAAS. Day one everything should have been stolen and replicated. Everyone should have been terrified of putting anything online out of fear that the monetary value would go to 0 as it was digitally recreated. We wouldn't be in this situation today with Trump if we stood our ground. We'd have flying cars and world peace

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  • [–] 7 points 4 months ago (11 children)

    From day one we all needed to collectively reject any effort to make any profit online.

    WUT? Why?

    We wouldn’t be in this situation today with Trump

    Trump was inevitable and is a product of silly, gullible Americans blown about by political winds without a compass or direction. Americans don't vote with the long term in mind. For the most part, their future lies within 4 year increments, never really grasping the fact that legislation passed today will be with us for generations if not longer. All you have to do is look at Cannabis laws in this country perpetuated by rich, white, racist, capitalist from 100 years ago.

    We’d have flying cars and world peace

    As someone who has been promised flying cars for 71 years, I don't think I want the average motorist flying about all willy nilly. We can't even handle the tarmac ffs....and you want flying cars? World peace? The world doesn't want peace. There is too much to be had in conflict.

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago (5 children)

    WUT? Why?

    Monetization is the root of a majority of our issues. Without monetizing you don't get data scarcity, profile tracking, Meta, Cambridge analyticals and eventually data that feeds into the current political systems. There is a direct arrow to our current problems that goes from early days of the internet up through the monetization into data scarcity, data collection and all the marketing tools that eventually feed into modern propaganda. Safe guarding against scarcity by creating a hostile internet and culture to monetization would have prevented all of this going on currently. We can't ever go back to that. We only ever had one chance. New frontiers do not show up every century. Our job was to keep the people who ruined everything else away.

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago (4 children)

    Safe guarding against scarcity by creating a hostile internet and culture to monetization would have prevented all of this going on currently.

    That die was cast long before the internet.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago (3 children)

    But it could have been different. I just think we were responsible for the culture. This stuff was inevitable. But we had the ability to shape the culture and instead they dangled a trinket in front of us and we forgot and they captured the new frontier like they did with others.

    But now maybe if we can reflect, find out what was done, create awareness and vigilance to fight them in the next frontier whenever that is

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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago (2 children)

    But it could have been different

    It should have been different, but we are shortsighted, greedy, with an overly inflated sense of self importance, and enamored with the shiny. It may sound defeatist, but I gave up trying to save the world back in the 60s when I came to the sobering yet liberating realization that 1) The world doesn't want to be saved. 2) At best I can only try to influence a few people around me, relatively speaking, and in turn hopefully they do the same. I vote, go protest, do call and writing campaigns, but at the end of the day, I am but one man hoping that America does the right thing...which we rarely do.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    I think we have way more ability to shape things then people believe. I remember at one point reddit said something like only 10% of users comment. Even less posted. Those were us. It was the nerds.

    And no we weren't short sighted because the early days of the internet everyone knew about data scarcity and how eventually the people who ruined cable and movies and every other media platform would come for the internet. There was so many people yelling that we needed to safe guard against that. But then Metallica sued Napster. Pewdiepie made millions. YouTube introduced ads. Instead of fucking them up, we all just went with it and forgot.

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (3 children)

    Biden had handlers, who probably were more in the Gen X - Millennial range and they were making the policies that were benefitting the younger generations.

    Trump is a narcissistic individual. He's part of the silent generation, everything he's done is to only better the people he sees as younger than his generation which is boomers. It's how its always worked it's like tv and the last generation always creating media for the current one.

    That's why I say we need a Gen X in office but they're too petty for politics, that's why we're stuck with the old farts in office because young people aren't interested into getting into office.

    It's like Japan and it's aging population, who's gonna take over when the old people are gone?

    Japan is creating robots for the population replacement due to birth rates plummeting. So who's gonna run the US government when the old people are gone? Robots or the next generation?

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  • [–] 2 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    Biden...the man who contributed a ton of content to the Patriot Act. The man who said: 'If Israel didn't exist, we'd have to invent it.' What's he saying? He's saying that Israel, along with other entities world wide, serve America's own selfish self interests. I wouldn't be holding him up as some level of superiority.

    That’s why I say we need a Gen X in office

    I've long said we need a age cap. Get some new blood in there. They sure as shit can't screw it up more than it is. But we've turned voting for the president of the United states into a World Wide Wrestling Federation event replete with all the glitz, glamor, and all the fakery you can stomach.

    birth rates plummeting.

    There's a reason replacement babies are scarce, and it's something I wrestled with as a young man back in the 60s. I looked around and thought, there's no way I'm going to bring another life into this mess. So I opted out.

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago (1 child)

    . I wouldn’t be holding him up as some level of superiority.

    I said his handlers.

    I've long said we need a age cap. Get some new blood in there. They sure as shit can’t screw it up more than it is.

    Exactly. We can't have people over the age of 70 but under the age of 40 running this country. That's just how it should be.

    There’s a reason replacement babies are scarce, and it’s something I wrestled with as a young man back in the 60s. I looked around and thought, there’s no way I’m going to bring another life into this mess. So I opted out.

    Ever raise cats? They're work!!!!

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago

    Ever raise cats? They’re work!!!

    It was really never the work involved in raising a child. It was what I would be raising a child in. At the time Bay of Pigs, Cuban Missile Crisis, the very real threat of global thermonuclear detonation, Nam, the violence and civil unrest of the 60s into the 70s and 80s, to name a few. It has done nothing but escalate.

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago

    We’d have flying cars and world peace

    No we wouldn't. World peace will never happen because there's always something that will happen. Some (so called) leader will get killed, someone will mine for oil where they're not supposed to, someone will bomb a religious group.

    Flying cars, lol that is a crack head thing to want or ever think it will happen. People can hardly drive in the fuckin' road!!!!! There's accidents on the highway every single day, so every single day you'd see someone fall out of the sky.

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