▲ 625 ▼ f-droid has my condolences (media.piefed.ca) submitted 4 months ago by Sunshine@piefed.ca to c/linuxphones@lemmy.ca 156 comments fedilink hide all child comments Pay the $25 ransom little devs or else!
[–] _haha_oh_wow_@sh.itjust.works 17 points 4 months ago (13 children) Yeah, this shit has me moving to Graphene soon. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 13 child comments replies: [–] kubica@fedia.io 1 point 4 months ago (12 children) As far a I know you need a Google Pixel for graphene. So you would still be helping google. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 12 child comments replies: [–] _haha_oh_wow_@sh.itjust.works 23 points 4 months ago* (2 children) I already have one but even if I didn't buying used FTW! Also, Motorola is reportedly releasing a Graphene friendly phone (not that they're all that great either). permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Jayb151@lemmy.world 5 points 4 months ago (1 child) I've had 4 pixels and even the og Google Nexus. A graphine Motorola might be the last thing I need to fully ditch Google phones. I wish I could put graphine on my old pixel 4a 4g. It's got e/os now. The battery life is crazy good, but it still kind of just feels like an android phone anyway. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] _haha_oh_wow_@sh.itjust.works 1 point 4 months ago *Graphene There's other mobile options too like Sailfish and Ubuntu Touch. permalink fedilink source parent [–] cabbagepatchcrabs@retrolemmy.com 15 points 4 months ago (6 children) Assuming they buy it new. If you buy it used, no helping Google. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] just_an_average_joe@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 4 months ago (5 children) Wouldn't it create an incentive for the other person (the seller) to buy another phone from google? Like if someone had to keep all my past phones, would they buy as many new phone? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] nickiwest@lemmy.world 5 points 4 months ago (1 child) I don't know a lot of people who wait to sell an old phone before they get a new one. Usually, they decide to sell after they already have the new phone set up. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] just_an_average_joe@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 4 months ago Usually people calculate/justify the cost. Like if a new phone costs 1000 and the old phone can be sold for 750 (selling it before the new purchase or after doesn't matter) then the actual cost of the new phone will be 250. But if we stop buying old phones from them, then they will have to bear the full cost (1000) and they won't be justifying their purchase like this. You know what i mean right? permalink fedilink source parent [+] huey_m@piefed.social 2 points 4 months ago (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] just_an_average_joe@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 4 months ago (1 child) True, however the justification to buy a new phone while already using a 'perfectly good but older model', is that they know they will be able to sell the 'perfectly good but older model' for a good enough price. Thus, this idea that buying a second hand pixel mean money does not go google is flawed. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply) [–] Microtonal_Banana@lemmy.zip 3 points 4 months ago Buy pre-owned. permalink fedilink source parent [–] forestbeasts@pawb.social 2 points 4 months ago LineageOS. It's less hardline on "the hardware must have these specific security features" than Graphene, and works on WAY more devices as a result. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] kubica@fedia.io 1 point 4 months ago (12 children) As far a I know you need a Google Pixel for graphene. So you would still be helping google. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 12 child comments replies: [–] _haha_oh_wow_@sh.itjust.works 23 points 4 months ago* (2 children) I already have one but even if I didn't buying used FTW! Also, Motorola is reportedly releasing a Graphene friendly phone (not that they're all that great either). permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Jayb151@lemmy.world 5 points 4 months ago (1 child) I've had 4 pixels and even the og Google Nexus. A graphine Motorola might be the last thing I need to fully ditch Google phones. I wish I could put graphine on my old pixel 4a 4g. It's got e/os now. The battery life is crazy good, but it still kind of just feels like an android phone anyway. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] _haha_oh_wow_@sh.itjust.works 1 point 4 months ago *Graphene There's other mobile options too like Sailfish and Ubuntu Touch. permalink fedilink source parent [–] cabbagepatchcrabs@retrolemmy.com 15 points 4 months ago (6 children) Assuming they buy it new. If you buy it used, no helping Google. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] just_an_average_joe@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 4 months ago (5 children) Wouldn't it create an incentive for the other person (the seller) to buy another phone from google? Like if someone had to keep all my past phones, would they buy as many new phone? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] nickiwest@lemmy.world 5 points 4 months ago (1 child) I don't know a lot of people who wait to sell an old phone before they get a new one. Usually, they decide to sell after they already have the new phone set up. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] just_an_average_joe@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 4 months ago Usually people calculate/justify the cost. Like if a new phone costs 1000 and the old phone can be sold for 750 (selling it before the new purchase or after doesn't matter) then the actual cost of the new phone will be 250. But if we stop buying old phones from them, then they will have to bear the full cost (1000) and they won't be justifying their purchase like this. You know what i mean right? permalink fedilink source parent [+] huey_m@piefed.social 2 points 4 months ago (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] just_an_average_joe@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 4 months ago (1 child) True, however the justification to buy a new phone while already using a 'perfectly good but older model', is that they know they will be able to sell the 'perfectly good but older model' for a good enough price. Thus, this idea that buying a second hand pixel mean money does not go google is flawed. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply) [–] Microtonal_Banana@lemmy.zip 3 points 4 months ago Buy pre-owned. permalink fedilink source parent [–] forestbeasts@pawb.social 2 points 4 months ago LineageOS. It's less hardline on "the hardware must have these specific security features" than Graphene, and works on WAY more devices as a result. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] _haha_oh_wow_@sh.itjust.works 23 points 4 months ago* (2 children) I already have one but even if I didn't buying used FTW! Also, Motorola is reportedly releasing a Graphene friendly phone (not that they're all that great either). permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Jayb151@lemmy.world 5 points 4 months ago (1 child) I've had 4 pixels and even the og Google Nexus. A graphine Motorola might be the last thing I need to fully ditch Google phones. I wish I could put graphine on my old pixel 4a 4g. It's got e/os now. The battery life is crazy good, but it still kind of just feels like an android phone anyway. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] _haha_oh_wow_@sh.itjust.works 1 point 4 months ago *Graphene There's other mobile options too like Sailfish and Ubuntu Touch. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Jayb151@lemmy.world 5 points 4 months ago (1 child) I've had 4 pixels and even the og Google Nexus. A graphine Motorola might be the last thing I need to fully ditch Google phones. I wish I could put graphine on my old pixel 4a 4g. It's got e/os now. The battery life is crazy good, but it still kind of just feels like an android phone anyway. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] _haha_oh_wow_@sh.itjust.works 1 point 4 months ago *Graphene There's other mobile options too like Sailfish and Ubuntu Touch. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] _haha_oh_wow_@sh.itjust.works 1 point 4 months ago *Graphene There's other mobile options too like Sailfish and Ubuntu Touch. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] cabbagepatchcrabs@retrolemmy.com 15 points 4 months ago (6 children) Assuming they buy it new. If you buy it used, no helping Google. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] just_an_average_joe@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 4 months ago (5 children) Wouldn't it create an incentive for the other person (the seller) to buy another phone from google? Like if someone had to keep all my past phones, would they buy as many new phone? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] nickiwest@lemmy.world 5 points 4 months ago (1 child) I don't know a lot of people who wait to sell an old phone before they get a new one. Usually, they decide to sell after they already have the new phone set up. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] just_an_average_joe@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 4 months ago Usually people calculate/justify the cost. Like if a new phone costs 1000 and the old phone can be sold for 750 (selling it before the new purchase or after doesn't matter) then the actual cost of the new phone will be 250. But if we stop buying old phones from them, then they will have to bear the full cost (1000) and they won't be justifying their purchase like this. You know what i mean right? permalink fedilink source parent [+] huey_m@piefed.social 2 points 4 months ago (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] just_an_average_joe@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 4 months ago (1 child) True, however the justification to buy a new phone while already using a 'perfectly good but older model', is that they know they will be able to sell the 'perfectly good but older model' for a good enough price. Thus, this idea that buying a second hand pixel mean money does not go google is flawed. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply)
[–] just_an_average_joe@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 4 months ago (5 children) Wouldn't it create an incentive for the other person (the seller) to buy another phone from google? Like if someone had to keep all my past phones, would they buy as many new phone? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] nickiwest@lemmy.world 5 points 4 months ago (1 child) I don't know a lot of people who wait to sell an old phone before they get a new one. Usually, they decide to sell after they already have the new phone set up. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] just_an_average_joe@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 4 months ago Usually people calculate/justify the cost. Like if a new phone costs 1000 and the old phone can be sold for 750 (selling it before the new purchase or after doesn't matter) then the actual cost of the new phone will be 250. But if we stop buying old phones from them, then they will have to bear the full cost (1000) and they won't be justifying their purchase like this. You know what i mean right? permalink fedilink source parent [+] huey_m@piefed.social 2 points 4 months ago (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] just_an_average_joe@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 4 months ago (1 child) True, however the justification to buy a new phone while already using a 'perfectly good but older model', is that they know they will be able to sell the 'perfectly good but older model' for a good enough price. Thus, this idea that buying a second hand pixel mean money does not go google is flawed. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply)
[–] nickiwest@lemmy.world 5 points 4 months ago (1 child) I don't know a lot of people who wait to sell an old phone before they get a new one. Usually, they decide to sell after they already have the new phone set up. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] just_an_average_joe@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 4 months ago Usually people calculate/justify the cost. Like if a new phone costs 1000 and the old phone can be sold for 750 (selling it before the new purchase or after doesn't matter) then the actual cost of the new phone will be 250. But if we stop buying old phones from them, then they will have to bear the full cost (1000) and they won't be justifying their purchase like this. You know what i mean right? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] just_an_average_joe@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 4 months ago Usually people calculate/justify the cost. Like if a new phone costs 1000 and the old phone can be sold for 750 (selling it before the new purchase or after doesn't matter) then the actual cost of the new phone will be 250. But if we stop buying old phones from them, then they will have to bear the full cost (1000) and they won't be justifying their purchase like this. You know what i mean right? permalink fedilink source parent
[+] huey_m@piefed.social 2 points 4 months ago (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] just_an_average_joe@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 4 months ago (1 child) True, however the justification to buy a new phone while already using a 'perfectly good but older model', is that they know they will be able to sell the 'perfectly good but older model' for a good enough price. Thus, this idea that buying a second hand pixel mean money does not go google is flawed. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply)
[–] just_an_average_joe@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 4 months ago (1 child) True, however the justification to buy a new phone while already using a 'perfectly good but older model', is that they know they will be able to sell the 'perfectly good but older model' for a good enough price. Thus, this idea that buying a second hand pixel mean money does not go google is flawed. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply)
[–] Microtonal_Banana@lemmy.zip 3 points 4 months ago Buy pre-owned. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] forestbeasts@pawb.social 2 points 4 months ago LineageOS. It's less hardline on "the hardware must have these specific security features" than Graphene, and works on WAY more devices as a result. permalink fedilink source parent