▲ 259 ▼ Are you ready for what it takes to stop ghost guns? New laws in California and New York might stop anyone from 3D printing guns — and create entirely new kinds of surveillance. (www.theverge.com) submitted 4 months ago by FoxtrotDeltaTango@sh.itjust.works to c/technology@lemmy.world 122 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] SupraMario@lemmy.world 17 points 4 months ago (9 children) You can't load a file on a 3d printer and print a gun either... On top of that, making a firearm is %100 legal. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 9 child comments replies: [–] PattyMcB@lemmy.world 5 points 4 months ago* (1 child) Not in some jurisdictions. Know your local laws! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] SupraMario@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago NY you can as long as you have a FFL or gunsmith license. Both are not super hard to get. California you can without a license and you can make up to 3 a year. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Bad_Engineering@fedia.io 3 points 4 months ago (6 children) Yes it is 100% legal, I've done it myself. And there are actually single shot pistols you can download and print. I'm not in anyway in favor of the legislation, just pointing out that machining a functioning anything isn't as easy as you said. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] PattyMcB@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago (1 child) It's not 100% legal in some places. Know your local laws! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] SupraMario@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago Even in NY it is %100 legal still, you have to print it with a serial and you must be licensed by the state to make a firearm (FFL or gunsmith). permalink fedilink source parent [–] SupraMario@lemmy.world 1 point 4 months ago Those still require metal parts. No plastic is going to have enough strength to be used as a firing pin. permalink fedilink source parent [–] agentlangdon@infosec.pub 1 point 4 months ago (2 children) Not in California ever since they passed that bill that requires a DOJ-issued serial number on your home made firearm. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SupraMario@lemmy.world 1 point 4 months ago (1 child) Nope, you can still make up to 3 firearms a year in California without a FFL license. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] agentlangdon@infosec.pub 1 point 3 months ago* consumer-alert.pdf https://oag.ca.gov/system/files/attachments/press-docs/consumer-alert.pdf Without a license but with requirements to register a serial number. Which is required on a metal plate embedded in the receiver. So really stops 3d printed polymer receivers, only cnc milled metal ones will do. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] PattyMcB@lemmy.world 5 points 4 months ago* (1 child) Not in some jurisdictions. Know your local laws! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] SupraMario@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago NY you can as long as you have a FFL or gunsmith license. Both are not super hard to get. California you can without a license and you can make up to 3 a year. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] SupraMario@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago NY you can as long as you have a FFL or gunsmith license. Both are not super hard to get. California you can without a license and you can make up to 3 a year. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Bad_Engineering@fedia.io 3 points 4 months ago (6 children) Yes it is 100% legal, I've done it myself. And there are actually single shot pistols you can download and print. I'm not in anyway in favor of the legislation, just pointing out that machining a functioning anything isn't as easy as you said. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] PattyMcB@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago (1 child) It's not 100% legal in some places. Know your local laws! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] SupraMario@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago Even in NY it is %100 legal still, you have to print it with a serial and you must be licensed by the state to make a firearm (FFL or gunsmith). permalink fedilink source parent [–] SupraMario@lemmy.world 1 point 4 months ago Those still require metal parts. No plastic is going to have enough strength to be used as a firing pin. permalink fedilink source parent [–] agentlangdon@infosec.pub 1 point 4 months ago (2 children) Not in California ever since they passed that bill that requires a DOJ-issued serial number on your home made firearm. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SupraMario@lemmy.world 1 point 4 months ago (1 child) Nope, you can still make up to 3 firearms a year in California without a FFL license. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] agentlangdon@infosec.pub 1 point 3 months ago* consumer-alert.pdf https://oag.ca.gov/system/files/attachments/press-docs/consumer-alert.pdf Without a license but with requirements to register a serial number. Which is required on a metal plate embedded in the receiver. So really stops 3d printed polymer receivers, only cnc milled metal ones will do. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] PattyMcB@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago (1 child) It's not 100% legal in some places. Know your local laws! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] SupraMario@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago Even in NY it is %100 legal still, you have to print it with a serial and you must be licensed by the state to make a firearm (FFL or gunsmith). permalink fedilink source parent
[–] SupraMario@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago Even in NY it is %100 legal still, you have to print it with a serial and you must be licensed by the state to make a firearm (FFL or gunsmith). permalink fedilink source parent
[–] SupraMario@lemmy.world 1 point 4 months ago Those still require metal parts. No plastic is going to have enough strength to be used as a firing pin. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] agentlangdon@infosec.pub 1 point 4 months ago (2 children) Not in California ever since they passed that bill that requires a DOJ-issued serial number on your home made firearm. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SupraMario@lemmy.world 1 point 4 months ago (1 child) Nope, you can still make up to 3 firearms a year in California without a FFL license. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] agentlangdon@infosec.pub 1 point 3 months ago* consumer-alert.pdf https://oag.ca.gov/system/files/attachments/press-docs/consumer-alert.pdf Without a license but with requirements to register a serial number. Which is required on a metal plate embedded in the receiver. So really stops 3d printed polymer receivers, only cnc milled metal ones will do. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] SupraMario@lemmy.world 1 point 4 months ago (1 child) Nope, you can still make up to 3 firearms a year in California without a FFL license. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] agentlangdon@infosec.pub 1 point 3 months ago* consumer-alert.pdf https://oag.ca.gov/system/files/attachments/press-docs/consumer-alert.pdf Without a license but with requirements to register a serial number. Which is required on a metal plate embedded in the receiver. So really stops 3d printed polymer receivers, only cnc milled metal ones will do. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] agentlangdon@infosec.pub 1 point 3 months ago* consumer-alert.pdf https://oag.ca.gov/system/files/attachments/press-docs/consumer-alert.pdf Without a license but with requirements to register a serial number. Which is required on a metal plate embedded in the receiver. So really stops 3d printed polymer receivers, only cnc milled metal ones will do. permalink fedilink source parent