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[–] oppy1984@lemdro.id 1 point 4 months ago (4 children)

I completely agree that facebook is an evil company and guilty of most if not all that you have laid out. I qualified that since some of the things you stated I have not heard of since I don't pay attention to facebook for the most part.

The second half of my comment was directed at your final line "Also this problem is mostly Ais fault." this just sounds like a broad anti-AI statement and not one aimed at facebook's use of AI. I was trying to communicate that many people, myself included, have found AI to be very helpful as a tool, and a generalized statement tagged onto the end of your comment could be seen as anti-AI to those who see value in AI.

I fully agree I could have explained that better in my previous comment, that is on me. I do hope this helps clarify my statement, and you can see that, while not worded the best, my intention was only to help you not turn others away from your core argument.

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[–] FoxAlive@lemmy.zip 1 point 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (3 children)

I mean I can see the value in ai too and still making broad sweeping anti-ai statements at the same time. Its more productive to broadly be anti-ai than it is to really stop to promote it in anyways. Also I don't think you guys realize things only become illegal after we make a fuss about it, positive change doesnt come from positive thinking. These tech companies do not underatand consent. Theres literally trillions of dollars going into this nonsense and promoting it, we don't need anymore sympathy. we could of solved world hunger FOREVER 5 times over, or got universal healthcare. But nope instead that money goes straight to elon musk and we are told that grok (who convinced 15+ people to kill themselves) should be our therapist instead. And if you think thats wrong you are a dangerous human being and should be grate full for an amazing wonderful technology.

If anything in a believer in open sourced models that anyone can run. But you know thats less than 1% of people who used any ai. Also thats not what people think of when they think of Ai. The general public thinks cool older tech like machine vision, just never existed before Sam Altmann stepped along. So when you promote ai you are only helping the epstine class, not actual real people working on real projects. Its like getting excited that people now have to do uber eats and get algorithmically manipulated into working for less than minimum wage. If there was some socialist automated revolution it would come from the local Ai guys, not the epstine class who literally have connections to Israel defense contractors and intellegence. Like god damn half of them are staffed by people in unit 8200.

Ai has become this giant marketing term that chatgpt/grok/gem are trying to hijack to only mean chatbot esque LLM's. Its much easier to simply be anti Ai or else I'm going to have to type another 20 paragraphs that most people are not going to read. When you are on a platform like reddit you kind of have to pidgon hole your arguments to suit the audience so a lot of nueance goes out the window and you have to make large generalized statements that trigger some form of emotion to even get people engaged. Lemmes nice, its full of people like me who can't help themselves from over explaining some obscure fact or anything. I feel like I can explain myself to people here and they want to listen.

I'm still used to being on reddit so if what I type sounds more combative in nature than I'm sorry. I like to think I'm conscious about what I type but its much more brain vomiting up thoughts faster than my fingers move.

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[–] oppy1984@lemdro.id 1 point 4 months ago (2 children)

You say you are used to tailoring to your audience, let me share something that it took me far to long to understand. Those that can express their thoughts calmly and concisely, will always be more well received.

On the commercial AI and Epstein class, yes many of the top people in the industry are involved with that. But why limit your self when you have the same tool your enemy has? Is it not better to use AI to develop open source alternatives that will bring them down? Would the irony not be the sweetest if they were brought down by their own tool?

Do with these thoughts as you wish, disregard them if they have no meaning for you.

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[–] FoxAlive@lemmy.zip 1 point 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 child)

I didn't say I'm limiting myself if anything I am for local Ai useage and many form of Ais. I think I mentioned that before. If there was some form of socialist automated revolution it would come from those cool guys.

I think the original point I was trying to make in the last comment is that its not productive to give Ai any free positive PR work in random ass comment threads. No one cares you have to use copilot for work. They literally have all the money, and are stealing more money as we speak by forcing their way into the stock market and forcing everyone retirements to be tied into a product that will never be profitable. Literally what kids did on runescape with the grand exchange in merch clans. Abusing trade limits and low volumes to sell their stock off to people who are going to tank all the costs. They don't need anymore money the gutted half of the united states to the point of federal facilities barely function, and the protected land is being just handed over to these companies to build ai data centers and some how the local communities have to pay for the Ai companies power bill and water usage. We've bent over backwards and spread our butt cheeks you don't need to flatter them as they are doing it.

Also I know this idea of being calm and collected makes you seem like the intelligent one in some debate bro kind of enviorment, in spaces like reddit more often you get ignored and no one wants to read an essay. There should be a slightly edgier side to being a leftist, that appeals to more the disenfranchised youth. It worked with gamer gate and all those kids are adults now running the same emotional factless arguments they where taught 15 years ago by the edgy alt right pipe line. Pretty sure that's at least half of maga now. I have to type in hyperboles and grand statements, just became habit. Again sorry if it rubs off the wrong way.

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[–] oppy1984@lemdro.id 1 point 4 months ago

I promote the use of AI since I've seen massive benefits since I started using it, also I feel like everyone should learn to use it since I believe it's here to stay. That being said, I do hope open source models, and the hardware to run them become more accessible and we move to self hosting our LLMs and only offloading certain tasks to a providers API when appropriate.

I think we're on the same side politically, we just have vastly different approaches. You do what you feel is best, as will I.

Just food for thought, I took two days to reply because I saw a wall of text and found it overwhelming. I suspect that is the reaction of most people. If you feel you absolutely can't leave anything out, consider at least putting a few points in a bullet point list, if nothing else it breaks up the text and makes it seem a bit less overwhelming.

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