@umbrella @bloogoose yes, you are the one being obstinate. I live in INE of those countries you mention where saying "Signal" and "Iron potatoes" sound the same to most of the population, and every business and public institution is basically unreachable unless you're using WhatsApp. I stopped using WhatsApp, those who respect my choice of privacy installed signal, the rest either call me or disappeared from my life. There is no excuse to keep using those platforms, it's that simple.