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[–] -3 points 4 months ago (29 children)
  • [–] [S] 3 points 4 months ago (28 children)

    Better than joining an imperialist organization dedicated to upholding nationalism and colonialism.

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  • [–] -3 points 4 months ago (27 children)

    i don't remember joining the american army?

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  • [–] [S] 3 points 4 months ago (26 children)

    The Canadian army is an imperialist organization too. Every military is.

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  • [–] -2 points 4 months ago* (25 children)

    Hmm, ok Soo I've looked up thing we've done without America asking us to help (things might go poorly if we ever said no to that in the past or not played along a d yah buisnees men took advantage of the situation)

    And it's coming up surprisingly slim, even less then I was expecting, some stuff in the Congo did pop up but everything else was usa pushed, there's other stuff from the early 19th and late 18th century so yah sure, I guess your right little freedom fighter, still way better then most and I get the right to be trained todefend my country from the lunatic you people put into a position of power, just keep makeing this about me.

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  • [–] [S] 3 points 4 months ago (24 children)

    it's coming up surprisingly slim

    Sure it is, if you don't count the military genociding indigenous peoples. Every indigenous nation pushed out is a different culture, so Canada has committed multiple genocides on their own soil. Genocides that were overt until the 70s with the closure of the last residential school. Genocides that continue to this day with systemic racism towards indigenous people and the refusal to return stolen land.

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  • [–] -2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (23 children)

    you act like any of the people of the past, not just the army, weren't also just as complicit as said army personnel, sins of the father much? and again, america has a way worse track record of this. at least our Indians and natives (some ask to be called dif things) are still around to complain about it.

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  • [–] [S] 4 points 4 months ago (22 children)

    "whaaaa, I don't like it when the evil acts of my country are pointed out at me!!1! Plus the evil things another country did were worse so it's actually not evil"

    Grow the fuck up.

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  • [–] -2 points 4 months ago* (21 children)

    you actually pissed huh, resorting to making up a strawman cuz i have an answer for everyone of your points so you have to make a fake version of me. you can throw a hissy fit and project all you want but its clear you don't want to actually talk about this, you want to feel good and feel like your in the right, fighting the good fight ay pixie. you. are. weak.

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  • [–] 3 points 4 months ago (20 children)

    I started by asking a question about your thoughts, but sure I'm the one dodging points and avoiding questions. Fine, let's talk. How will joining the Canadian military contribute to international solidarity with the working class people who are fighting against fascism? What should the movement be doing differently?

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  • [–] 3 points 4 months ago (5 children)

    Id leave this convo, this person is def getting a hard on from riling you up.

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  • [–] 3 points 4 months ago (3 children)

    I switched to my alt so I can ignore them as soon as I get bored. I'm mostly entertained by this argument actually, it's fun to get trolls upset because they aren't getting people mad

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  • [–] -2 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    You literally needed to cover your ears to ignore me, and you tell me to grow up

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  • [–] -1 points 4 months ago*

    Yup, it's so easy to counter they're points that I'd gone from actually trying to point out problems with they're thinking and others like the example but that this person turn themselves into the prime example of what I'm talking about. People think they know everything and are fighting the good fight when it at most it amount to theatrics.

    I do actually appreciate you trying to help your fellow here but people like this don't want to hear that. They want to be right and feel good about themselves rather then being materially good.

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  • [–] 0 points 4 months ago* (13 children)

    You just made a caricature of me now your trying to take the highground, lol. For the record you've complelty move the goal posts on this from what this was originally about.

    Canada is working with other nation of the world through new trade and strengthening defencive agreement with NATO members and other middling states ( not America obv) were fighting fascism by hungering down with the other middle power and me joining the military to physical defend those agreement isn't international solidarity?? These deals help trade flows and midigate the leverage America has has over us in trade (something Iv always hated) how does this not help protect every workers here in Canada and in those nation to some level. Better then getting fucked in the ass by an orange prick

    Take your own advice and Grow the fuck up.

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  • [–] 2 points 4 months ago* (12 children)

    Your country, and presumably you, are participating in boycotts. That's not a bad start, but that's not really direct action and doesn't answer how specifically you joining the military will directly help people in the US fight fascism. You could be in the streets, disrupting the logistics chain of corporations profiting from ICE. By your own logic, you're just sitting on your hands and are a weak person in the face of authoritarianism.

    You also forgot to talk about what we should be doing differently.

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  • [–] 0 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (11 children)

    I'd start hitting there assets, not people deff don't need to do anything like that yet, or frankly ever if you do things right. Vandalism is way easier to get away with and often bloodless if your doing it right. And it hurts billionaire more then if you just luigi'ed some of them. Because they're still alive to feel the pain of loss :D

    Look up what the IRA was doing to Britain after they realize killing brit soldiers just meant they'd send more brit soldiers. Soo as they started bombing key officials investments, they're tune changed real quick.

    I'm not saying you have to go uni-bomber on them either. Even minor vandalism will still affect them.

    (this note out of all of them is the most likely to get me smited but Fuck it, I want you to know what the actual next step is if you ever want to escalate)

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  • [–] 2 points 4 months ago (10 children)

    Glad you brought up radical action. DAMN was erecting hard barricades to completely block ICE from entering or leaving areas, i.e. the day Alex Pretti was murdered people moved a dumpster into the street to prevent ICE from leaving, and set it on fire to prevent it from being moved.

    We were also forming soft barricades with our bodies and homemade shields. We also disrupted the flow of capital towards corporations coordinating with ICE by picketing their distribution centers and turning away truckers.

    I'd argue that these efforts are more important and more impactful than uncoordinated vandalism.

    Other people and groups participated in wakeups, where people violate noise ordinances late at night near the hotels ICE is staying. This did involve the exact type of vandalism you're talking about.

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  • [–] 0 points 4 months ago* (9 children)

    I woundn't, you didn't effect the decision makers when you did that, you just hit the arm that was built to take those hit and they hit back. My whole point is that your not going far enough and frankly you can organize those destructive elements like you did there into something that will actually hurt these bugmens pocketbooks.

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  • [–] 2 points 4 months ago (8 children)

    Got it, so instead of meeting the moment in the area we live, we all need to abandon our vulnerable people and vacate the area to commit mass vandalism at the capitol 1200 miles away?

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  • [–] 0 points 4 months ago* (7 children)

    See your not listening, ASSETS, the things these people OWN. Your willfully not listen. You don't need to go all the way to the capital to hit things like this. But clearly you just want to win the argument. BTW I'm done here, Iv been waiting for gov paperwork in this stupid office and my number is next. Hopefully you figure things out and don't end up in a jail cell forever or worse over something that wasn't worth it when you could have made it worth it.

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  • [–] 2 points 4 months ago (6 children)

    So turning away truckers at distribution centers of collaborator corporations isn't attacking the assets?

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago (5 children)

    If they can drop it off elsewhere, ye

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  • [–] 2 points 4 months ago (4 children)

    We were preventing truckers from picking up.

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  • [–] 0 points 4 months ago* (3 children)

    Ok, how much did that cost and how long did it go on for, cuz I'm telling you right now it wasn't the same amount as an emptied office complex getting bomb every other month. And again what your doing doesn't seem to be dissuading them so far.

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  • [–] 2 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    This action got Target to stop collaborating, so it clearly worked.

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  • [–] 0 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 child)

    Ok that's good, who else has this worked with an-- ok I'm tired of this really. This endless "what ifs" and hair splitting isn't constructive when you don't want to listen and I'm tired of keyboarding with you, since you really want to be right, your right, congratulations.

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  • [–] 2 points 4 months ago

    These are not "what-if" scenarios. These are things that have happened and are currently happening. You clearly don't actually support us, and it's upsetting to you that we're fighting as hard as we can with what little power we have in a manner you don't like.

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