▲ 265 ▼ Zelenskyy Says Russia Keeps Resetting Its Deadline for Capturing Donetsk — Now at 15 Attempts (united24media.com) submitted 4 months ago by Lemmynated@lemmy.zip to c/world 53 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[+] Seppo@sopuli.xyz 83 points 4 months ago (18 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 18 child comments replies: [–] chonglibloodsport@lemmy.world 28 points 4 months ago (10 children) No there actually are some normal people on ml. I believe they joined by accident (the lemmy website tries to nudge people to join ml). permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] neukenindekeuken@sh.itjust.works 15 points 4 months ago (9 children) I made the mistake of joining thinking they were "my" kind of socialists. They were not. They're like if MAGA were genuinely pretending to be more left wing than communism. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 9 child comments replies: [–] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 7 points 4 months ago (8 children) I'm thinking some .ml users are actually communist Russians but has Nazi-like ultranationalist streak. I don't remember the name of the group but there is a fringe Russian communist party although unabashedly xenophobic. That said, that kinda explains .ml's imperialist and genocidal apologia when it's Russia doing it. Although on the one hand, they may not be Russian nationals but non-Russian vatniks who are compromised in one way or another. Even in the leftist circle there are prominent individuals like Sarah Wagenknecht who is socialist but cosies up to Russia. US Green Party leader Jill Stein kept dodging the question on whether she supports Putin or not. And she also only makes a national noise during US presidential elections to siphon off votes from Democrats, which helps Russia to divide Americans and allow pro-Russian elements to win. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 4 months ago (2 children) she also only makes a national noise during US presidential elections to siphon off votes from Democrats democrats aren't owed anyones vote, and there is no reason to believe someone who might vote for jill stein would vote for a democrat. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 1 point 4 months ago (1 child) True but if Jill Stein is serious, she should organise grassroots and make her party more appealing. Or, she should have tried to take over the Democrats from within, like Mamdani and Sanders are doing. Instead, she just shows up during presidential elections to siphon votes. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 4 months ago you should join the Greens and change the party from within permalink fedilink source parent [–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 4 months ago (4 children) US Green Party leader Jill Stein kept dodging the question on whether she supports Putin or not. she explicitly called the invasion illegal. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 1 point 4 months ago (3 children) I guess she has but she was hesitant to call Putin a war criminal when Mehdi Hasan asked her. It was only dats later she changed her tune. Very fishy. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 4 months ago (2 children) it was immediately after the invasion she said it was illegal. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 1 point 4 months ago (1 child) Do you have a source? I've tried to look it up. But the fact is that she was hesitant to call Putin war criminal when asked but three days later she changed her mind. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 4 months ago https://x.com/DrJillStein/status/1496972331201318918 permalink fedilink source parent [–] BastingChemina@slrpnk.net 8 points 4 months ago Even without checking the username I could see it was a .ml user. permalink fedilink source parent [–] trainsrkool@lemmy.ml -2 points 4 months ago (5 children) read somethin else other than imperialist media for starters hehe permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] GeeDubHayduke@lemmy.dbzer0.com 42 points 4 months ago "Did you do NO2 as a child..?" "hehe" Can't write this shit. permalink fedilink source parent [–] avg@lemmy.zip 33 points 4 months ago (1 child) How are you so sure you didn't just read someone else's propaganda? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 13 points 4 months ago hehe permalink fedilink source parent [–] 0ops@piefed.zip 27 points 4 months ago The media didn't send working-class Russians to slaughter, so they have that going for them permalink fedilink source parent [–] Zomg@piefed.world 25 points 4 months ago* What if youre also reading propaganda? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] chonglibloodsport@lemmy.world 28 points 4 months ago (10 children) No there actually are some normal people on ml. I believe they joined by accident (the lemmy website tries to nudge people to join ml). permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] neukenindekeuken@sh.itjust.works 15 points 4 months ago (9 children) I made the mistake of joining thinking they were "my" kind of socialists. They were not. They're like if MAGA were genuinely pretending to be more left wing than communism. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 9 child comments replies: [–] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 7 points 4 months ago (8 children) I'm thinking some .ml users are actually communist Russians but has Nazi-like ultranationalist streak. I don't remember the name of the group but there is a fringe Russian communist party although unabashedly xenophobic. That said, that kinda explains .ml's imperialist and genocidal apologia when it's Russia doing it. Although on the one hand, they may not be Russian nationals but non-Russian vatniks who are compromised in one way or another. Even in the leftist circle there are prominent individuals like Sarah Wagenknecht who is socialist but cosies up to Russia. US Green Party leader Jill Stein kept dodging the question on whether she supports Putin or not. And she also only makes a national noise during US presidential elections to siphon off votes from Democrats, which helps Russia to divide Americans and allow pro-Russian elements to win. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 4 months ago (2 children) she also only makes a national noise during US presidential elections to siphon off votes from Democrats democrats aren't owed anyones vote, and there is no reason to believe someone who might vote for jill stein would vote for a democrat. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 1 point 4 months ago (1 child) True but if Jill Stein is serious, she should organise grassroots and make her party more appealing. Or, she should have tried to take over the Democrats from within, like Mamdani and Sanders are doing. Instead, she just shows up during presidential elections to siphon votes. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 4 months ago you should join the Greens and change the party from within permalink fedilink source parent [–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 4 months ago (4 children) US Green Party leader Jill Stein kept dodging the question on whether she supports Putin or not. she explicitly called the invasion illegal. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 1 point 4 months ago (3 children) I guess she has but she was hesitant to call Putin a war criminal when Mehdi Hasan asked her. It was only dats later she changed her tune. Very fishy. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 4 months ago (2 children) it was immediately after the invasion she said it was illegal. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 1 point 4 months ago (1 child) Do you have a source? I've tried to look it up. But the fact is that she was hesitant to call Putin war criminal when asked but three days later she changed her mind. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 4 months ago https://x.com/DrJillStein/status/1496972331201318918 permalink fedilink source parent
[–] neukenindekeuken@sh.itjust.works 15 points 4 months ago (9 children) I made the mistake of joining thinking they were "my" kind of socialists. They were not. They're like if MAGA were genuinely pretending to be more left wing than communism. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 9 child comments replies: [–] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 7 points 4 months ago (8 children) I'm thinking some .ml users are actually communist Russians but has Nazi-like ultranationalist streak. I don't remember the name of the group but there is a fringe Russian communist party although unabashedly xenophobic. That said, that kinda explains .ml's imperialist and genocidal apologia when it's Russia doing it. Although on the one hand, they may not be Russian nationals but non-Russian vatniks who are compromised in one way or another. Even in the leftist circle there are prominent individuals like Sarah Wagenknecht who is socialist but cosies up to Russia. US Green Party leader Jill Stein kept dodging the question on whether she supports Putin or not. And she also only makes a national noise during US presidential elections to siphon off votes from Democrats, which helps Russia to divide Americans and allow pro-Russian elements to win. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 4 months ago (2 children) she also only makes a national noise during US presidential elections to siphon off votes from Democrats democrats aren't owed anyones vote, and there is no reason to believe someone who might vote for jill stein would vote for a democrat. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 1 point 4 months ago (1 child) True but if Jill Stein is serious, she should organise grassroots and make her party more appealing. Or, she should have tried to take over the Democrats from within, like Mamdani and Sanders are doing. Instead, she just shows up during presidential elections to siphon votes. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 4 months ago you should join the Greens and change the party from within permalink fedilink source parent [–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 4 months ago (4 children) US Green Party leader Jill Stein kept dodging the question on whether she supports Putin or not. she explicitly called the invasion illegal. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 1 point 4 months ago (3 children) I guess she has but she was hesitant to call Putin a war criminal when Mehdi Hasan asked her. It was only dats later she changed her tune. Very fishy. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 4 months ago (2 children) it was immediately after the invasion she said it was illegal. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 1 point 4 months ago (1 child) Do you have a source? I've tried to look it up. But the fact is that she was hesitant to call Putin war criminal when asked but three days later she changed her mind. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 4 months ago https://x.com/DrJillStein/status/1496972331201318918 permalink fedilink source parent
[–] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 7 points 4 months ago (8 children) I'm thinking some .ml users are actually communist Russians but has Nazi-like ultranationalist streak. I don't remember the name of the group but there is a fringe Russian communist party although unabashedly xenophobic. That said, that kinda explains .ml's imperialist and genocidal apologia when it's Russia doing it. Although on the one hand, they may not be Russian nationals but non-Russian vatniks who are compromised in one way or another. Even in the leftist circle there are prominent individuals like Sarah Wagenknecht who is socialist but cosies up to Russia. US Green Party leader Jill Stein kept dodging the question on whether she supports Putin or not. And she also only makes a national noise during US presidential elections to siphon off votes from Democrats, which helps Russia to divide Americans and allow pro-Russian elements to win. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 4 months ago (2 children) she also only makes a national noise during US presidential elections to siphon off votes from Democrats democrats aren't owed anyones vote, and there is no reason to believe someone who might vote for jill stein would vote for a democrat. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 1 point 4 months ago (1 child) True but if Jill Stein is serious, she should organise grassroots and make her party more appealing. Or, she should have tried to take over the Democrats from within, like Mamdani and Sanders are doing. Instead, she just shows up during presidential elections to siphon votes. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 4 months ago you should join the Greens and change the party from within permalink fedilink source parent [–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 4 months ago (4 children) US Green Party leader Jill Stein kept dodging the question on whether she supports Putin or not. she explicitly called the invasion illegal. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 1 point 4 months ago (3 children) I guess she has but she was hesitant to call Putin a war criminal when Mehdi Hasan asked her. It was only dats later she changed her tune. Very fishy. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 4 months ago (2 children) it was immediately after the invasion she said it was illegal. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 1 point 4 months ago (1 child) Do you have a source? I've tried to look it up. But the fact is that she was hesitant to call Putin war criminal when asked but three days later she changed her mind. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 4 months ago https://x.com/DrJillStein/status/1496972331201318918 permalink fedilink source parent
[–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 4 months ago (2 children) she also only makes a national noise during US presidential elections to siphon off votes from Democrats democrats aren't owed anyones vote, and there is no reason to believe someone who might vote for jill stein would vote for a democrat. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 1 point 4 months ago (1 child) True but if Jill Stein is serious, she should organise grassroots and make her party more appealing. Or, she should have tried to take over the Democrats from within, like Mamdani and Sanders are doing. Instead, she just shows up during presidential elections to siphon votes. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 4 months ago you should join the Greens and change the party from within permalink fedilink source parent
[–] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 1 point 4 months ago (1 child) True but if Jill Stein is serious, she should organise grassroots and make her party more appealing. Or, she should have tried to take over the Democrats from within, like Mamdani and Sanders are doing. Instead, she just shows up during presidential elections to siphon votes. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 4 months ago you should join the Greens and change the party from within permalink fedilink source parent
[–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 4 months ago you should join the Greens and change the party from within permalink fedilink source parent
[–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 4 months ago (4 children) US Green Party leader Jill Stein kept dodging the question on whether she supports Putin or not. she explicitly called the invasion illegal. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 1 point 4 months ago (3 children) I guess she has but she was hesitant to call Putin a war criminal when Mehdi Hasan asked her. It was only dats later she changed her tune. Very fishy. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 4 months ago (2 children) it was immediately after the invasion she said it was illegal. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 1 point 4 months ago (1 child) Do you have a source? I've tried to look it up. But the fact is that she was hesitant to call Putin war criminal when asked but three days later she changed her mind. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 4 months ago https://x.com/DrJillStein/status/1496972331201318918 permalink fedilink source parent
[–] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 1 point 4 months ago (3 children) I guess she has but she was hesitant to call Putin a war criminal when Mehdi Hasan asked her. It was only dats later she changed her tune. Very fishy. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 4 months ago (2 children) it was immediately after the invasion she said it was illegal. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 1 point 4 months ago (1 child) Do you have a source? I've tried to look it up. But the fact is that she was hesitant to call Putin war criminal when asked but three days later she changed her mind. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 4 months ago https://x.com/DrJillStein/status/1496972331201318918 permalink fedilink source parent
[–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 4 months ago (2 children) it was immediately after the invasion she said it was illegal. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 1 point 4 months ago (1 child) Do you have a source? I've tried to look it up. But the fact is that she was hesitant to call Putin war criminal when asked but three days later she changed her mind. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 4 months ago https://x.com/DrJillStein/status/1496972331201318918 permalink fedilink source parent
[–] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 1 point 4 months ago (1 child) Do you have a source? I've tried to look it up. But the fact is that she was hesitant to call Putin war criminal when asked but three days later she changed her mind. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 4 months ago https://x.com/DrJillStein/status/1496972331201318918 permalink fedilink source parent
[–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 4 months ago https://x.com/DrJillStein/status/1496972331201318918 permalink fedilink source parent
[–] BastingChemina@slrpnk.net 8 points 4 months ago Even without checking the username I could see it was a .ml user. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] trainsrkool@lemmy.ml -2 points 4 months ago (5 children) read somethin else other than imperialist media for starters hehe permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] GeeDubHayduke@lemmy.dbzer0.com 42 points 4 months ago "Did you do NO2 as a child..?" "hehe" Can't write this shit. permalink fedilink source parent [–] avg@lemmy.zip 33 points 4 months ago (1 child) How are you so sure you didn't just read someone else's propaganda? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 13 points 4 months ago hehe permalink fedilink source parent [–] 0ops@piefed.zip 27 points 4 months ago The media didn't send working-class Russians to slaughter, so they have that going for them permalink fedilink source parent [–] Zomg@piefed.world 25 points 4 months ago* What if youre also reading propaganda? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] GeeDubHayduke@lemmy.dbzer0.com 42 points 4 months ago "Did you do NO2 as a child..?" "hehe" Can't write this shit. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] avg@lemmy.zip 33 points 4 months ago (1 child) How are you so sure you didn't just read someone else's propaganda? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 13 points 4 months ago hehe permalink fedilink source parent
[–] 0ops@piefed.zip 27 points 4 months ago The media didn't send working-class Russians to slaughter, so they have that going for them permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Zomg@piefed.world 25 points 4 months ago* What if youre also reading propaganda? permalink fedilink source parent