moobythegoldensock comments on Do you think that COVID-19 was released on purpose?

[–] moobythegoldensock@infosec.pub 3 points 4 months ago (9 children)

So I’m actually a doctor and this is just wrong. The vaccine was developed properly built on decades of research and produced quickly with appropriate funding. Though I detest Trump, signing off on Operation Warp Speed was an actual sensible thing he did during his first term.

Your comparison to the polio vaccine is interesting because you’re clearly not aware of the Cutter incident or that OPV causes polio in a small percentage of recipients. By comparison, the COVID-19 vaccines had a much smoother rollout and cannot actually cause COVID-19.

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[+] Anonymous_Leaker@lemmy.world [S] 0 points 4 months ago* (8 children)

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[–] moobythegoldensock@infosec.pub 1 point 4 months ago* (1 child)

Yes, I’m an actual practicing family physician. The vaccines are known to be both safe and effective. They reduce the chances of you getting COVID, they reduce the chance that you’ll spread it, and they reduce the chances of hospitalization and death from COVID-19. I get them and I recommend them to my patients.

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[–] ImgurRefugee114@reddthat.com 1 point 4 months ago* (5 children)

It isn't a live virus vaccine, is what they're saying. It contains no viral materials. Yes you can still get infected and spread the virus; thinking otherwise is an elementary-school understanding of immunology. No one knowledgeable would ever claim that specifically; they would say it reduces the spread and improves health outcomes when you do get exposed. It depends on how your body reacts to the vaccine, lead time to exposure, and the viral dose you're exposed to.

I'm more inclined to believe they're a doctor than you're arguing in good faith...

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[+] Anonymous_Leaker@lemmy.world [S] 1 point 4 months ago* (4 children)

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[–] ImgurRefugee114@reddthat.com 1 point 4 months ago (3 children)

*edited my comment for additional context.

Yes, of course you can. But that's significantly different from the vaccine causing the illness, which is what they were arguing against.

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[+] Anonymous_Leaker@lemmy.world [S] 1 point 4 months ago* (2 children)

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[–] ImgurRefugee114@reddthat.com 1 point 4 months ago* (1 child)

Pedantics, really. In colloquial terms, it makes sense to describe a vaccine as doing exactly that. Not everyone has a grasp on the statistics involves; a huge number of people learned about R0 for the first time because of covid. People were arguing over whether you should wash your hands and wear a mask like it was the dawn of germ theory; I forgive the media for not going into hour long lectures about viral replication in the body and the expected statistical significance of vaccination...