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[+] 3 points 4 months ago (26 children)
  • [+] [S] -3 points 4 months ago* (25 children)
  • [–] 5 points 4 months ago* (24 children)

    To do what, exactly?

    “Boss, I came up with a brilliant plan! We’re going to release a virus that mildly inconveniences a lot of people! It’ll clog hospitals in random parts of the world for a couple weeks at a time, kill a small percentage of people, and maybe even strand a single cruise ship! We’ll of course have no control over where it goes or how it mutates, and there will probably be an effective vaccine within a year.”

    “Ok, Ted, that certainly sounds like a thing we could do, but FUCKING WHY?”

    If you’re going to come up with a big scary government story, you need to include the part where the big scary government had an actual plan.

    I already know the response: “I’m not saying this is actually the case. I’m just thinking it, out loud, in your general direction. And yeah, l totally believe it and I literally did just say it, but I also just said I didn’t say it so if anyone points out the obvious I can try to save face, mmk?”

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  • [+] [S] 1 point 4 months ago (23 children)
  • [–] 2 points 4 months ago (18 children)

    Yes, I think 0.28% of the world’s population is small. You still haven’t answered the question. Why, Ted? Why?

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  • [+] [S] 0 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (17 children)
  • [–] 2 points 4 months ago (16 children)

    No, your comment is stupid. 16,000 is a big number. 0.00000001 is a small number.

    Now that we’ve established that some numbers are smaller than others: namely, that 22.1 million is smaller than 8 billion, 16,000 is smaller than 22.1 million, and 0.00000001 is smaller than 22.1 million, will you quit stalling and answer the question?

    The more you dodge it, the more you prove that you have no answer. And without an answer, your entire conspiracy theory falls apart.

    So I’ll ask one more time: Why would a government release this specific virus?

    Was it because they had gone diamond hands in Zoom stock calls and needed to cash out? We’re all waiting.

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  • [+] [S] 0 points 4 months ago* (15 children)
  • [–] 2 points 4 months ago (14 children)

    It is clear you are unable to answer the question that is central to your conspiracy theory.

    Also, despite your claims elsewhere in your thread, you have accidentally revealed here that you are indeed JAQing off.

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  • [+] [S] 1 point 4 months ago* (13 children)
  • [–] 2 points 4 months ago (12 children)

    So you’re saying the Chinese government released a virus so that vaccines could be released by:

    • A German company
    • A British-Swedish company
    • A Chinese government owned company
    • Three different US companies
    • A Dutch biotech subsidiary of a Belgian subsidiary of a US company
    • An Indian company
    • A private Chinese company
    • A French company
    • The Russian government
    • The Cuban government
    • An Iranian company

    So their goal was to release a virus so they could be one of many countries to develop a cure, with most of the cures being made by private companies in countries that are their enemies? And what was the goal of this? So they could say, “Look, we are one of several countries to make the same cure?”

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  • [+] [S] 1 point 4 months ago* (11 children)
  • [–] 3 points 4 months ago (9 children)

    So I’m actually a doctor and this is just wrong. The vaccine was developed properly built on decades of research and produced quickly with appropriate funding. Though I detest Trump, signing off on Operation Warp Speed was an actual sensible thing he did during his first term.

    Your comparison to the polio vaccine is interesting because you’re clearly not aware of the Cutter incident or that OPV causes polio in a small percentage of recipients. By comparison, the COVID-19 vaccines had a much smoother rollout and cannot actually cause COVID-19.

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  • [+] [S] 0 points 4 months ago* (8 children)
  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago* (5 children)

    It isn't a live virus vaccine, is what they're saying. It contains no viral materials. Yes you can still get infected and spread the virus; thinking otherwise is an elementary-school understanding of immunology. No one knowledgeable would ever claim that specifically; they would say it reduces the spread and improves health outcomes when you do get exposed. It depends on how your body reacts to the vaccine, lead time to exposure, and the viral dose you're exposed to.

    I'm more inclined to believe they're a doctor than you're arguing in good faith...

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  • [+] [S] 1 point 4 months ago* (4 children)
  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago (3 children)

    *edited my comment for additional context.

    Yes, of course you can. But that's significantly different from the vaccine causing the illness, which is what they were arguing against.

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  • [+] [S] 1 point 4 months ago* (2 children)
  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago* (1 child)

    Pedantics, really. In colloquial terms, it makes sense to describe a vaccine as doing exactly that. Not everyone has a grasp on the statistics involves; a huge number of people learned about R0 for the first time because of covid. People were arguing over whether you should wash your hands and wear a mask like it was the dawn of germ theory; I forgive the media for not going into hour long lectures about viral replication in the body and the expected statistical significance of vaccination...

    (And I hate to defend the MSM...)

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  • [–] 2 points 4 months ago

    I suggest you look into the clinical data about what studies were done prior to approval of the vaccine. It was a record-breaking modern deployment speed, yes, but not many corners were cut and the technology was pretty well understood and was always a potential tool for a rapid response scenario.

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  • [–] 2 points 4 months ago (3 children)

    Globally over a couple of years? Yeah, tiny!

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