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Why is sleep so hard for laptops? (lemmy.world)
submitted 1 year ago by to c/linux@lemmy.world
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And it's crap across the OSes. On Linux laptops don't wake up from sleep, on Windows they keep waking up when nobody asks for it.

In our home office room there's three laptops. My private one running Fedora, my work PC that sadly runs Windows and my wife's laptop also running Windows.

My work laptop and my wife's laptop keep waking up wasting electricity, and my private laptop needs a hard reset to wake it up every second time.

That feature should be stupid simple, yet it doesn't work across the board.

Rant over.

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[–] 12 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Wait, are you suggesting it's consistent and reliable on desktops?

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    I'm roughly 25 years into using computers daily and never turning them off and I've never had or used a desktop that didn't sleep and wake reliably, either naturally or using the sleep and wake buttons on the keyboard, with both Linux and Windows

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child)

    Are you talking the full set of S0-S3 sleep as well as hibernation? Or just whatever your machine did by default? Because I've never had one do all of them correctly without freezing up or having some other issue, across multiple motherboard brands and BIOS updates and so forth. ~30 years here, Windows mostly then the last few on Linux.

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  • [–] [S] 3 points 1 year ago* (2 children)

    Tbh, I don't know. The last time I used a desktop on a daily basis was 2020, and that was just my work PC where I wouldn't really care if it woke up while I wasn't at work.

    The last time I had a desktop PC at home was in 2009, so I really can't say what is happening there in the meantime.

    And at least to me, sleep on a laptop is much more important than on a desktop. Battery usage isn't really a thing on a desktop (usually at least).

    Interestingly, I do own a little 2010 netbook that I use as an ultra-mobile laptop when I really don't need any kind of performance, and that one does all sleep states including hibernation perfectly out of the box. Even when just sleeping it loses maybe 1-2% of charge per day.

    But all the other laptops I own suck when sleeping.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Well yeah obviously it's way more important on anything portable. For me it's very reliable on Steam Deck. But that's also kind of a core feature, and it only has one type of sleep (in game mode at least). But it does still drain battery faster than I'd like.

    I'm curious, what kind of netbook is that one you mention?

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  • [–] [S] 2 points 1 year ago

    It's an EEE PC 1005P. It's an outdated piece of garbage, but sleeping works perfectly and the battery life is crazy. 8 hours on its extended battery, 5 hours on the stock battery. And these aren't new batteries either.

    With AntiX Linux performance is ok enough for what I need it for.

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