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[Ethics] Why do people condemn Zoophilia on the basis of other animal's inability to consent but those same people kill animals without asking for their consent? Why such inconsistency? (lemmy.world)
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[–] 52 points 4 months ago (1 child)

False premise. Zoophilia isn't condemned because animal rights etc. It's condemned because 'ew WTF we don't want people doing that, to the extent that we will make laws against it.'

It's the same reason that we have laws against incest. Had laws against homosexuality.

I'm not saying it should be allowed because we (some of us) grew up and realised that laws against homosexuality were stupid. Just that, that is the reason. Collective societal disgust. It's only justified by using animal rights (and rightly so, because EW) the same way we justified antihomo laws because it goes against some obscure biblical / Koranic rule.

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  • [–] 3 points 4 months ago

    It’s the same reason that we have laws against incest. Had laws against homosexuality.

    I don't think this is right. We have laws against incest, because we were programmed by evolution to think incest is bad. The causal chain is:

    1. Incest lowers survival rates,
    2. Evolution causes humans to find incest disgusting to increase survival rates,
    3. Humans create laws to abolish incest because they find it disgusting.

    Homosexuality is not like that at all, if I understand correctly (which I may not, tbf). Homosexuality may in fact be a evolutionary trait that is selected for in a certain sense, or it may just be a side-effect of other evolutionary efforts. For instance, having a homosexual uncle could be beneficial to you, as he would spend less time taking care of his own kids (obviously won't have any) and more time taking care of you. The uncle's genes would have no incentive to do this and evolution would not pressure the uncle to become homosexual, but your common ancestor (your grandparents on one side) would benefit as your genes would be helped along by your uncle, and so evolution could have caused homosexuality to occur ever so often, to produce one of these "helpful uncles".

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