▲ 498 ▼ A $200 ChatGPT subscription could cost OpenAI $14,000 if you actually used it to its full potential (www.techspot.com) submitted 4 months ago by sanitation@lemmy.today to c/technology@lemmy.world 110 comments fedilink hide all child comments 😂 1
[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 61 points 4 months ago (12 children) Sounds like it'll never be worth it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 12 child comments replies: [–] khannie@lemmy.world 37 points 4 months ago (11 children) In five years once this RAM nonsense is over you'll be able to run a comparatively high quality local LLM for very little money. I can't see how these companies will ever make their money back. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 11 child comments replies: [–] 4am@lemmy.zip 30 points 4 months ago (10 children) If manufacturers are willing to sell components to us in five years that is. Of course if the colllapse happens before then the story might be different… permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] SacralPlexus@lemmy.world 15 points 4 months ago (8 children) I’m slightly optimistic that manufacturers will return to the retail market eventually. Every AI company is racing to hyperscale right now but there will be a point where the infrastructure is built and at that point the growth will slow down quite a bit. In that scenario there will be ongoing demand for components to be replaced as they become obsolete but I can’t imagine the demand will be the same level it is right now as everyone rushes to build. That’s assuming this all works the way they want it to. If the economics aren’t viable and the bubble bursts… permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] Wildmimic@anarchist.nexus 13 points 4 months ago (5 children) Their Datacenter buildout doesn't work they want to. Most projects are very much delayed, and those that even started getting built are over budget. OpenAI and Anthropic will collapse in the next years, and this is coming from someone who absolutely sees the good things about the technology itself. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] SacralPlexus@lemmy.world 13 points 4 months ago (4 children) OpenAI and Anthropic will collapse in the next years Stop, I can only handle so much good news! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Wildmimic@anarchist.nexus 10 points 4 months ago (3 children) There is no way, absolutely NO WAY to recuperate the amount of cash burnt on those two companies, and that is not even counting the amount of AI Startup whose cash is currently flowing towards to those two. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] msage@programming.dev 4 points 4 months ago (2 children) How about bailouts? GPT integration with Visa? IPOs sucked into funds? There's a lot of money they can and will try to vacuum, don't you worry about that. And banks will do their damnest best to help with all of that - just look at SpaceX. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Wildmimic@anarchist.nexus 3 points 4 months ago (1 child) At least they failed at getting into index funds for now. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] msage@programming.dev 1 point 4 months ago Nasdaq100? They may not be un S&P, but they are in. permalink fedilink source parent [–] green_goglin@thelemmy.club 3 points 4 months ago (1 child) “Hyperscale” is utterly meaningless MBA jargon at this point. Equivalent of verbal slop from industry shills and CNBC/Bloomberg sell side simps. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] SacralPlexus@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago Sorry if that’s true. I understood the word to mean aggressive growth at any cost to try and shut out competition before they can get established. permalink fedilink source parent [–] khannie@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago 🤞 permalink fedilink source parent
[–] khannie@lemmy.world 37 points 4 months ago (11 children) In five years once this RAM nonsense is over you'll be able to run a comparatively high quality local LLM for very little money. I can't see how these companies will ever make their money back. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 11 child comments replies: [–] 4am@lemmy.zip 30 points 4 months ago (10 children) If manufacturers are willing to sell components to us in five years that is. Of course if the colllapse happens before then the story might be different… permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] SacralPlexus@lemmy.world 15 points 4 months ago (8 children) I’m slightly optimistic that manufacturers will return to the retail market eventually. Every AI company is racing to hyperscale right now but there will be a point where the infrastructure is built and at that point the growth will slow down quite a bit. In that scenario there will be ongoing demand for components to be replaced as they become obsolete but I can’t imagine the demand will be the same level it is right now as everyone rushes to build. That’s assuming this all works the way they want it to. If the economics aren’t viable and the bubble bursts… permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] Wildmimic@anarchist.nexus 13 points 4 months ago (5 children) Their Datacenter buildout doesn't work they want to. Most projects are very much delayed, and those that even started getting built are over budget. OpenAI and Anthropic will collapse in the next years, and this is coming from someone who absolutely sees the good things about the technology itself. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] SacralPlexus@lemmy.world 13 points 4 months ago (4 children) OpenAI and Anthropic will collapse in the next years Stop, I can only handle so much good news! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Wildmimic@anarchist.nexus 10 points 4 months ago (3 children) There is no way, absolutely NO WAY to recuperate the amount of cash burnt on those two companies, and that is not even counting the amount of AI Startup whose cash is currently flowing towards to those two. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] msage@programming.dev 4 points 4 months ago (2 children) How about bailouts? GPT integration with Visa? IPOs sucked into funds? There's a lot of money they can and will try to vacuum, don't you worry about that. And banks will do their damnest best to help with all of that - just look at SpaceX. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Wildmimic@anarchist.nexus 3 points 4 months ago (1 child) At least they failed at getting into index funds for now. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] msage@programming.dev 1 point 4 months ago Nasdaq100? They may not be un S&P, but they are in. permalink fedilink source parent [–] green_goglin@thelemmy.club 3 points 4 months ago (1 child) “Hyperscale” is utterly meaningless MBA jargon at this point. Equivalent of verbal slop from industry shills and CNBC/Bloomberg sell side simps. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] SacralPlexus@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago Sorry if that’s true. I understood the word to mean aggressive growth at any cost to try and shut out competition before they can get established. permalink fedilink source parent [–] khannie@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago 🤞 permalink fedilink source parent
[–] 4am@lemmy.zip 30 points 4 months ago (10 children) If manufacturers are willing to sell components to us in five years that is. Of course if the colllapse happens before then the story might be different… permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] SacralPlexus@lemmy.world 15 points 4 months ago (8 children) I’m slightly optimistic that manufacturers will return to the retail market eventually. Every AI company is racing to hyperscale right now but there will be a point where the infrastructure is built and at that point the growth will slow down quite a bit. In that scenario there will be ongoing demand for components to be replaced as they become obsolete but I can’t imagine the demand will be the same level it is right now as everyone rushes to build. That’s assuming this all works the way they want it to. If the economics aren’t viable and the bubble bursts… permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] Wildmimic@anarchist.nexus 13 points 4 months ago (5 children) Their Datacenter buildout doesn't work they want to. Most projects are very much delayed, and those that even started getting built are over budget. OpenAI and Anthropic will collapse in the next years, and this is coming from someone who absolutely sees the good things about the technology itself. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] SacralPlexus@lemmy.world 13 points 4 months ago (4 children) OpenAI and Anthropic will collapse in the next years Stop, I can only handle so much good news! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Wildmimic@anarchist.nexus 10 points 4 months ago (3 children) There is no way, absolutely NO WAY to recuperate the amount of cash burnt on those two companies, and that is not even counting the amount of AI Startup whose cash is currently flowing towards to those two. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] msage@programming.dev 4 points 4 months ago (2 children) How about bailouts? GPT integration with Visa? IPOs sucked into funds? There's a lot of money they can and will try to vacuum, don't you worry about that. And banks will do their damnest best to help with all of that - just look at SpaceX. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Wildmimic@anarchist.nexus 3 points 4 months ago (1 child) At least they failed at getting into index funds for now. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] msage@programming.dev 1 point 4 months ago Nasdaq100? They may not be un S&P, but they are in. permalink fedilink source parent [–] green_goglin@thelemmy.club 3 points 4 months ago (1 child) “Hyperscale” is utterly meaningless MBA jargon at this point. Equivalent of verbal slop from industry shills and CNBC/Bloomberg sell side simps. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] SacralPlexus@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago Sorry if that’s true. I understood the word to mean aggressive growth at any cost to try and shut out competition before they can get established. permalink fedilink source parent [–] khannie@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago 🤞 permalink fedilink source parent
[–] SacralPlexus@lemmy.world 15 points 4 months ago (8 children) I’m slightly optimistic that manufacturers will return to the retail market eventually. Every AI company is racing to hyperscale right now but there will be a point where the infrastructure is built and at that point the growth will slow down quite a bit. In that scenario there will be ongoing demand for components to be replaced as they become obsolete but I can’t imagine the demand will be the same level it is right now as everyone rushes to build. That’s assuming this all works the way they want it to. If the economics aren’t viable and the bubble bursts… permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] Wildmimic@anarchist.nexus 13 points 4 months ago (5 children) Their Datacenter buildout doesn't work they want to. Most projects are very much delayed, and those that even started getting built are over budget. OpenAI and Anthropic will collapse in the next years, and this is coming from someone who absolutely sees the good things about the technology itself. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] SacralPlexus@lemmy.world 13 points 4 months ago (4 children) OpenAI and Anthropic will collapse in the next years Stop, I can only handle so much good news! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Wildmimic@anarchist.nexus 10 points 4 months ago (3 children) There is no way, absolutely NO WAY to recuperate the amount of cash burnt on those two companies, and that is not even counting the amount of AI Startup whose cash is currently flowing towards to those two. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] msage@programming.dev 4 points 4 months ago (2 children) How about bailouts? GPT integration with Visa? IPOs sucked into funds? There's a lot of money they can and will try to vacuum, don't you worry about that. And banks will do their damnest best to help with all of that - just look at SpaceX. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Wildmimic@anarchist.nexus 3 points 4 months ago (1 child) At least they failed at getting into index funds for now. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] msage@programming.dev 1 point 4 months ago Nasdaq100? They may not be un S&P, but they are in. permalink fedilink source parent [–] green_goglin@thelemmy.club 3 points 4 months ago (1 child) “Hyperscale” is utterly meaningless MBA jargon at this point. Equivalent of verbal slop from industry shills and CNBC/Bloomberg sell side simps. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] SacralPlexus@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago Sorry if that’s true. I understood the word to mean aggressive growth at any cost to try and shut out competition before they can get established. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Wildmimic@anarchist.nexus 13 points 4 months ago (5 children) Their Datacenter buildout doesn't work they want to. Most projects are very much delayed, and those that even started getting built are over budget. OpenAI and Anthropic will collapse in the next years, and this is coming from someone who absolutely sees the good things about the technology itself. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] SacralPlexus@lemmy.world 13 points 4 months ago (4 children) OpenAI and Anthropic will collapse in the next years Stop, I can only handle so much good news! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Wildmimic@anarchist.nexus 10 points 4 months ago (3 children) There is no way, absolutely NO WAY to recuperate the amount of cash burnt on those two companies, and that is not even counting the amount of AI Startup whose cash is currently flowing towards to those two. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] msage@programming.dev 4 points 4 months ago (2 children) How about bailouts? GPT integration with Visa? IPOs sucked into funds? There's a lot of money they can and will try to vacuum, don't you worry about that. And banks will do their damnest best to help with all of that - just look at SpaceX. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Wildmimic@anarchist.nexus 3 points 4 months ago (1 child) At least they failed at getting into index funds for now. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] msage@programming.dev 1 point 4 months ago Nasdaq100? They may not be un S&P, but they are in. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] SacralPlexus@lemmy.world 13 points 4 months ago (4 children) OpenAI and Anthropic will collapse in the next years Stop, I can only handle so much good news! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Wildmimic@anarchist.nexus 10 points 4 months ago (3 children) There is no way, absolutely NO WAY to recuperate the amount of cash burnt on those two companies, and that is not even counting the amount of AI Startup whose cash is currently flowing towards to those two. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] msage@programming.dev 4 points 4 months ago (2 children) How about bailouts? GPT integration with Visa? IPOs sucked into funds? There's a lot of money they can and will try to vacuum, don't you worry about that. And banks will do their damnest best to help with all of that - just look at SpaceX. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Wildmimic@anarchist.nexus 3 points 4 months ago (1 child) At least they failed at getting into index funds for now. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] msage@programming.dev 1 point 4 months ago Nasdaq100? They may not be un S&P, but they are in. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Wildmimic@anarchist.nexus 10 points 4 months ago (3 children) There is no way, absolutely NO WAY to recuperate the amount of cash burnt on those two companies, and that is not even counting the amount of AI Startup whose cash is currently flowing towards to those two. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] msage@programming.dev 4 points 4 months ago (2 children) How about bailouts? GPT integration with Visa? IPOs sucked into funds? There's a lot of money they can and will try to vacuum, don't you worry about that. And banks will do their damnest best to help with all of that - just look at SpaceX. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Wildmimic@anarchist.nexus 3 points 4 months ago (1 child) At least they failed at getting into index funds for now. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] msage@programming.dev 1 point 4 months ago Nasdaq100? They may not be un S&P, but they are in. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] msage@programming.dev 4 points 4 months ago (2 children) How about bailouts? GPT integration with Visa? IPOs sucked into funds? There's a lot of money they can and will try to vacuum, don't you worry about that. And banks will do their damnest best to help with all of that - just look at SpaceX. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Wildmimic@anarchist.nexus 3 points 4 months ago (1 child) At least they failed at getting into index funds for now. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] msage@programming.dev 1 point 4 months ago Nasdaq100? They may not be un S&P, but they are in. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Wildmimic@anarchist.nexus 3 points 4 months ago (1 child) At least they failed at getting into index funds for now. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] msage@programming.dev 1 point 4 months ago Nasdaq100? They may not be un S&P, but they are in. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] msage@programming.dev 1 point 4 months ago Nasdaq100? They may not be un S&P, but they are in. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] green_goglin@thelemmy.club 3 points 4 months ago (1 child) “Hyperscale” is utterly meaningless MBA jargon at this point. Equivalent of verbal slop from industry shills and CNBC/Bloomberg sell side simps. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] SacralPlexus@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago Sorry if that’s true. I understood the word to mean aggressive growth at any cost to try and shut out competition before they can get established. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] SacralPlexus@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago Sorry if that’s true. I understood the word to mean aggressive growth at any cost to try and shut out competition before they can get established. permalink fedilink source parent