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What do Europeans fell the most attached to? (feddit.dk)
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[+] -6 points 5 months ago (8 children)

Probably the EU fash government seeing how far they've come in their promoting of the artificial Euronation

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  • [–] 0 points 5 months ago* (7 children)

    Funny how nationalists, can't possibly imagine that there could be something other than national entities and communities, as if the Westphalian paradigm would be really so total as it pretends to be.

    There is no "Euronation", there doesn't need to be to have a common European Union, with a common civil society, legal and judicial institutions and common law, to do the things the member states can't do on their own. Of course Russia and the US hate that because they'd rather prefer those things being decided in DC or Moscow instead, without the influence from anyone from all these European countries.

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  • [–] -2 points 5 months ago (6 children)

    LOL
    Of course ther can be something other, we have that monstrosity right now.

    There are no bigger bootlickers to DC that these sell out EU traitors.
    They bend over and let the US terrorists blow up our ges supply so they can benefit, sanction ourselves and thank them for the tariffs.
    And support these scumbag nazis in their unprovoked attack on Iran.
    And we suckers now also have to buy more US war crap.

    It's the Eurorats who have destroyed European independence.
    We are nothing but their pawns to be used as proxies against Russia.

    You keep imagining this EU farce makes us somehow strong while we're rapidly being destroyed and bankrupted.

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago (5 children)

    It is probably a waste to ask you, how it is that the US is driving the same anti-EU propaganda that Russia is and supporting even the identical parties for that. It makes zero sense if the EU is "the biggest bootlicker to DC".

    Member states have shifted substantial arms procurement away from the US, contrary to your claim too.

    Given the delusional stuff you are saying about gas and your opposition to the sanctions against the Russian regime, at least it gets clear where you are coming from. If you prefer being ruled by DC or Moscow, after destroying Brussels.

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  • [–] -2 points 5 months ago (4 children)

    It's clearly you who is delusional if you don't see these EU traitors are nothing but sell-outs destroying Europe for the US regime.
    Maybe you were sleeping when the US terrorists blew up Nordstream and denied us cheap gas from Russia.
    What did our EU 'leaders' do? Nothing.
    On the contrary, they decide to buy 8x more expensive fracking gas from them.
    And you can keep sticking your head in the sand and not see how that is destroying our competitivity and many companies close, fire workers and/or move.
    And then the US regime start bombing Iranian schoolgirls unprovoked causing even more crisis for us.
    And what is the reaction from our bootlickers? Sactions on the aggressor? No, they sanction Iran for defending themselves.
    What did that embarrassing lapdog VDL say about this clear violation of international law? "Europe must accept the world as it is".
    And worse, many EU countries even send ships in support.
    Same as they keep supporting the genocide state despite their cheap empty words.
    I bet you buy them too.

    Member states have shifted substantial arms procurement away from the US, contrary to your claim too.

    You offer zero sources for your faulty claims.
    Again simply suckered by lying politician's words and 'intentions'.

    So not so long ago, while we're already being bankrupted and these EU bastards were already stealing our pensions and social welfare money to throw in the bottomless corrupt pit that is Ukraine, the orange clown said we should pay even more for their wars. We already more than tripled imports. Europe now accounts for 33% of global arms imports.

    Paying even more while we're already in shit was a bit too much to sell to the EU population.
    Guess what happened then?
    Trump does his little act as if EU is no longer friendly, some meaningless threats pulling out of NATO, posturing and talk about Greenland and suddenly the EU lapdogs now have an excuse to say we need to be 'independent' and buy more weapons.
    Hey look, exactly what Trump wanted in the first place.
    58% of all major weapons imported into Europe we buy from that warmongering country. 217% increase from 2024 to 2025.
    That's really "moving away from the US" right?
    Thank god the media is pushing the important achievements of independence like making our own Office software. That will show em!

    Facts are the US regime is out of stock with all their illegal wars and now has effectively outsourced a big part of the anti-Russia effort and bill to us so they can concentrate on bombing brown kids in the middle-east or further antagonize China.

    There are long term agreements and contracts making sure we still buy more US crap.
    And guess what will happen in 2 years when Trump is gone?
    Just like that we will be best friends again, and the temporary EU independent show can end. Of course we will have spent all those billions by then and we can use these arms to support their endless imperialist wars like we always have done.
    Like good vassals.

    But you can't even look ahead that far and have no grasp of geopolitics.
    Keep buying the independent strong EU nonsense talk, and don't look at the devastating consequences for the population while living in your fantasy world. We're definitely not ruled by DC!

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago* (3 children)

    Wow, you are really into the full Russian narrative. Never mind that this mythical cheap resources from a regime that is openly waging a hybrid war against the rest of Europe, did not help Hungary at all in getting energy prices down, let alone keep inflation in check. Its way worse than in Poland which has done everything it could to get away from that "cheap energy". Those not falling for Russian propaganda are doubling down on the transition to renewable energies and the necessary infrastructure modifications needed to support it. The shift in the last 5 years has been very substantial and is already paying off during the price shock caused by the US regimes war against the Iranian regime.

    But yeah both, the US and Russian regime support the identical parties in the EU, which are reliably acting against the national interests of their own countries and for the interest of their sponsors. Surprise, surprise.

    The EU is massively investing in strategic autonomy, which of course cannot be achieved over night but there are very meaningful programs going on right now to get there. All of them are wildly opposed by people supporting your stance. Those programs also will not disappear when Trump is gone. Galileo is there to stay, so will be Iris2, European arms programs, improved coordination etc. Unless of course those parties sponsored by Russia manage to convince the majority of the voters. In that case those projects might be killed and we will enter the age of true national sovereignty ... for sure.

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  • [–] -1 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    Wow, you are really are into Russophobia.
    Your 2 countries are a pathetic non-reasoning.
    Hungary was blackmailed and harrassed by those very same EU fascists.
    Not to mention those Banderites blocking the oil.
    And LOL at your transition to renewable energies.
    Some other fairytales you believe from the EU clowns?
    I'll see that happening when I'm retired and long gone since they only think about it after the facts and it's too late.
    Not even going into your other BS.
    Glad I can move anytime and leave the sinking ship of pathetic vassals and clowns obsessed with warmongering against Russia and dragging us to a war.
    Enjoy dying at the eastern front like the first wave of nazis.
    You're deluded.
    And don't reply, don't care what nonsense your types have to say,

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago* (1 child)

    Oh, so now the EU is not just treasonous but also fascist, never mind that actual fascists in the EU like the AfD or the FPÖ are staunchly against the EU with identical arguments like yours which are the same to what I can read on RT. Pointing that out, I assume, is being a Russophobe.

    Hungary was not buying at oh so low prices and the costs and inflation were already there before any issues with getting the oil or gas through Ukraine, a country that is the victim of a blood soaked invasion by Russia which aims at imperial conquest.

    I agree, probably everything said here, no one is going to be convinced by the other here but you should really go into yourself if wishing others dying a painful death in some war, merely because of different opinions is the kind of person you want to be. Hopefully this is just an internet thing.

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