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Kremlin outraged by detention of Russian shadow fleet tanker, calls it "piracy" (www.pravda.com.ua)
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[–] 1 point 5 months ago (10 children)

Ok, how do we call it when a state does piracy?

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  • [–] 3 points 5 months ago (8 children)

    We don’t, as it’s impossible for a state to commit piracy.

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago (7 children)

    ie illegally according to international law seize a foreign ship in international waters and sell it's cargo for own profit. How do we call that? Not talking about this case.

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  • [–] 2 points 5 months ago (6 children)

    Depends what the foreign ship was up to. Could be drug interdiction, sanctions enforcement, warfare etc.

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago (5 children)

    Let's say transporting oil. Nothing illegal according to international laws.

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  • [–] 2 points 5 months ago (4 children)

    Depends on the ship. You may remember an incident a few months ago where the US intercepted a tanker departing Venuzuela. The tanker was trying to evade sanctions by flying a false flag. This made it stateless and therefore it was within the rights of the US to sieze it and its cargo.

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago (3 children)

    US to sieze it and its cargo.

    Is it really? I get seizure and everything, but selling it - I guess that could be possible only if owner didn't pay a fine and wouldn't oppose it legally?

    OTOH what'd happen if the ship is in order and it still happened that? Or just seizure and torture of its crew just like happened with Global Sumud Flotilla?

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  • [–] 2 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    Getting off topic here. The actions of a state may not be lawful or justifiable, but they aren’t piracy.

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