▲ 261 ▼ Honda’s affordable EV hot hatch is ‘selling like hotcakes,’ priced at $21,000 (electrek.co) submitted 5 months ago by Sunshine@piefed.ca to c/electricvehicles@slrpnk.net 86 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] noxypaws@pawb.social 3 points 5 months ago (7 children) no LED headlights (they are dangerous and rude) Can you explain why you think LED headlights are either of those? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 5 points 5 months ago (1 child) Too bright and concentrated. Both US and Canada will be regulating them. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] noxypaws@pawb.social 5 points 5 months ago as they should. but the source of the light isn't the problem, it's how the light is focused and directed and cut off, and that can be done just as effectively for LEDs as any other light source. permalink fedilink source parent [–] mrgoosmoos@lemmy.ca 3 points 5 months ago (4 children) they're blinding, preventing oncoming people from being able to see. and because lowbeams are just as bright as highbeams, just aimed lower, even lowbeams blind people. drive anywhere in a hilly area and this becomes apparent. they're also obscene to be blasting into pedestrian and cyclist eyes in low speed neighbourhoods with streetlights. like how would those drivers feel if I walked around with a 4000lumen flashlight pointed at their eyes as they drive. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] noxypaws@pawb.social 4 points 5 months ago (3 children) are you sure that the light source itself is the problem, though? with proper housing and aiming there's nothing special about LED light compared to xenon or halogen that makes it any more blinding. the problem is automakers and wildly outdated regulation allowing automakers to make their shit as bright as they can legally maneuver around. not the specific type of light source. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago* They do it because they get saftey ratings which are occupant based. You want the absolutely brightest, longest shining lights possible to light up as much of the road as possible, but that has consequences for others. Theyre probably bumping up against whatever high end limits are allowed before the saftey agencies cause a fuss. But while it might solve one problem fixing this issue, it will probably cause another, e.g more people will be overdriving their lights. permalink fedilink source parent [–] mrgoosmoos@lemmy.ca -1 points 5 months ago (1 child) oh, they could absolutely make LEDs in an acceptable manner. but they don't. there's some more inherent difficulty with getting LEDs to be acceptable, as well. not to mention the way they're built nowadays means they're not easily replaceable. however, your comment about aiming is completely incorrect. aiming is irrelevant, because roads have curves and elevation changes and bumps. lights need to not be so dangerously blinding even if pointed straight at somebody's face, because they will be pointed straight at somebody's face for many non-negligible occurrences. I know this because it happens to me every fucking night I'm outside around cars. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] noxypaws@pawb.social 3 points 5 months ago again your complaint has nothing to do with the light source. you're (rightfully, I agree!) talking about brightness, nothing to do with how the photos are generated, just how many are being generated. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 5 points 5 months ago (1 child) Too bright and concentrated. Both US and Canada will be regulating them. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] noxypaws@pawb.social 5 points 5 months ago as they should. but the source of the light isn't the problem, it's how the light is focused and directed and cut off, and that can be done just as effectively for LEDs as any other light source. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] noxypaws@pawb.social 5 points 5 months ago as they should. but the source of the light isn't the problem, it's how the light is focused and directed and cut off, and that can be done just as effectively for LEDs as any other light source. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] mrgoosmoos@lemmy.ca 3 points 5 months ago (4 children) they're blinding, preventing oncoming people from being able to see. and because lowbeams are just as bright as highbeams, just aimed lower, even lowbeams blind people. drive anywhere in a hilly area and this becomes apparent. they're also obscene to be blasting into pedestrian and cyclist eyes in low speed neighbourhoods with streetlights. like how would those drivers feel if I walked around with a 4000lumen flashlight pointed at their eyes as they drive. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] noxypaws@pawb.social 4 points 5 months ago (3 children) are you sure that the light source itself is the problem, though? with proper housing and aiming there's nothing special about LED light compared to xenon or halogen that makes it any more blinding. the problem is automakers and wildly outdated regulation allowing automakers to make their shit as bright as they can legally maneuver around. not the specific type of light source. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago* They do it because they get saftey ratings which are occupant based. You want the absolutely brightest, longest shining lights possible to light up as much of the road as possible, but that has consequences for others. Theyre probably bumping up against whatever high end limits are allowed before the saftey agencies cause a fuss. But while it might solve one problem fixing this issue, it will probably cause another, e.g more people will be overdriving their lights. permalink fedilink source parent [–] mrgoosmoos@lemmy.ca -1 points 5 months ago (1 child) oh, they could absolutely make LEDs in an acceptable manner. but they don't. there's some more inherent difficulty with getting LEDs to be acceptable, as well. not to mention the way they're built nowadays means they're not easily replaceable. however, your comment about aiming is completely incorrect. aiming is irrelevant, because roads have curves and elevation changes and bumps. lights need to not be so dangerously blinding even if pointed straight at somebody's face, because they will be pointed straight at somebody's face for many non-negligible occurrences. I know this because it happens to me every fucking night I'm outside around cars. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] noxypaws@pawb.social 3 points 5 months ago again your complaint has nothing to do with the light source. you're (rightfully, I agree!) talking about brightness, nothing to do with how the photos are generated, just how many are being generated. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] noxypaws@pawb.social 4 points 5 months ago (3 children) are you sure that the light source itself is the problem, though? with proper housing and aiming there's nothing special about LED light compared to xenon or halogen that makes it any more blinding. the problem is automakers and wildly outdated regulation allowing automakers to make their shit as bright as they can legally maneuver around. not the specific type of light source. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago* They do it because they get saftey ratings which are occupant based. You want the absolutely brightest, longest shining lights possible to light up as much of the road as possible, but that has consequences for others. Theyre probably bumping up against whatever high end limits are allowed before the saftey agencies cause a fuss. But while it might solve one problem fixing this issue, it will probably cause another, e.g more people will be overdriving their lights. permalink fedilink source parent [–] mrgoosmoos@lemmy.ca -1 points 5 months ago (1 child) oh, they could absolutely make LEDs in an acceptable manner. but they don't. there's some more inherent difficulty with getting LEDs to be acceptable, as well. not to mention the way they're built nowadays means they're not easily replaceable. however, your comment about aiming is completely incorrect. aiming is irrelevant, because roads have curves and elevation changes and bumps. lights need to not be so dangerously blinding even if pointed straight at somebody's face, because they will be pointed straight at somebody's face for many non-negligible occurrences. I know this because it happens to me every fucking night I'm outside around cars. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] noxypaws@pawb.social 3 points 5 months ago again your complaint has nothing to do with the light source. you're (rightfully, I agree!) talking about brightness, nothing to do with how the photos are generated, just how many are being generated. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago* They do it because they get saftey ratings which are occupant based. You want the absolutely brightest, longest shining lights possible to light up as much of the road as possible, but that has consequences for others. Theyre probably bumping up against whatever high end limits are allowed before the saftey agencies cause a fuss. But while it might solve one problem fixing this issue, it will probably cause another, e.g more people will be overdriving their lights. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] mrgoosmoos@lemmy.ca -1 points 5 months ago (1 child) oh, they could absolutely make LEDs in an acceptable manner. but they don't. there's some more inherent difficulty with getting LEDs to be acceptable, as well. not to mention the way they're built nowadays means they're not easily replaceable. however, your comment about aiming is completely incorrect. aiming is irrelevant, because roads have curves and elevation changes and bumps. lights need to not be so dangerously blinding even if pointed straight at somebody's face, because they will be pointed straight at somebody's face for many non-negligible occurrences. I know this because it happens to me every fucking night I'm outside around cars. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] noxypaws@pawb.social 3 points 5 months ago again your complaint has nothing to do with the light source. you're (rightfully, I agree!) talking about brightness, nothing to do with how the photos are generated, just how many are being generated. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] noxypaws@pawb.social 3 points 5 months ago again your complaint has nothing to do with the light source. you're (rightfully, I agree!) talking about brightness, nothing to do with how the photos are generated, just how many are being generated. permalink fedilink source parent