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Not true. We got 15 soldiers MIA. (discuss.online)
submitted 5 months ago by to c/politicalmemes@lemmy.world
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[–] 52 points 5 months ago (4 children)

It's really dishonest to describe the un-freezing of funds and sanctions relief as "giving" Iran money.

It's no wonder that the Obama and Trump deals would be similar, since it's the same countries, with the same leverage, and all the same goals.

We shouldn't adopt the language of people who believe diplomacy is worthless. Instead we should be pointing out that the bombs and missiles didn't seem to help much.

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  • [–] 4 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    The issue I have with it is not so much the "giving them money" but how for some reason there are liberals upset that the war is ending and we didn't benefit from it.

    Like, yes, I agree it's silly to call it "giving them money" but they did that to Obama for years. I don't really care if the liberals jump on the same language to make Trump look stupid. Its stupid but Republicans were stupid first. Accuracy vs. Propaganda and sometimes you gotta just throw shit back.

    But, a lot of these same liberals are literally war mongering. If Trump believes he is "a great deal maker" but ends the war. I'm ok with that. I don't give a fuck how it ends as long as we stop killing people. Way too much coming from liberals that are more concerned with Trump looking weak than actually ending the war.

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  • [–] 5 points 5 months ago*

    I don't see anyone war mongering except on fox and online, and maybe that's because I lucked out with a place to live or perhaps they remember the last three wars a little too recently here or quite possibly a lot of it is inorganic.

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  • [–] 4 points 5 months ago

    I think it's more that liberals are pointing out how awful of an idea this was from the start. Trump pulled out of the Iran deal, spent billions conducting an illegal war, and what we have to show for it is a worse deal than we already had through peaceful means. It should be pointed out how awful of a mistake it was.

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago

    It's no wonder that the Obama and Trump deals would be similar, since it's the same countries, with the same leverage, and all the same goals.

    Same countries and goals, yes, but Iran has a lot more leverage now. So I really don't think the US will get such a favourable treaty this time.

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